<div dir="auto">I agree that disaster radio does not have the bandwidth to operate as a city wide network. Here in Barcelona/Catalonia/Spain we have <a href="http://guifi.net">guifi.net</a> which creats a network out of comodity HW. They have a different economic model as you proposed though.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto">Matthias</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">El dc., 26 set. 2018, 23:36, Xavier Fiechter <<a href="mailto:xavierfiechter@gmail.com">xavierfiechter@gmail.com</a>> va escriure:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>To be honest: I like and dislike the idea at the same time. </div>The throughput of such a system is limited. <br>I thought about payments per usage as well – but with the Bitcoin Lightning Network and in a different context. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 11:18 PM <<a href="mailto:sam@bristolwireless.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sam@bristolwireless.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Hi all<br>
<br>
I've been thinking a bit about Disaster radio in contexts where there <br>
isn't much in the way of existing infrastructure.<br>
<br>
In particular, I've been looking at the pay-as-you-go solar model, and <br>
how that's been effective in an African context at getting hundreds of <br>
thousands of people connected to solar energy: <br>
<a href="http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/africaatlse/2018/01/29/when-mobile-meets-modular-pay-as-you-go-solar-energy-in-rural-africa/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/africaatlse/2018/01/29/when-mobile-meets-modular-pay-as-you-go-solar-energy-in-rural-africa/</a><br>
<br>
I'm wondering if this approach could be applied to comms? If you/ we <br>
were to fund an initial deployment of say a hundred nodes into a <br>
medium-sized African city.<br>
<br>
One or two Disaster radio nodes in that city network are connected to <br>
the Mobile phone network. If $X per day has been received in mobile <br>
micro-payments, then it removes the network-wide obnoxious banner-ad <br>
soliciting mobile payment? Or maybe it removes the annoying two <br>
minutes forced a timeout on the wifi networks?<br>
<br>
It seems a bit counter-intuitive to look at ways to annoy users, and <br>
just to be clear I'm not looking to 'monetize' this in a way that <br>
extracts value.<br>
<br>
But if city-wide networks could self-fund further rollout, then you <br>
could be looking at something that could scale in really interesting, <br>
potentially transformative ways.<br>
<br>
After the capital costs of the network had been paid, and enough <br>
income raised to roll out to the next city, the ads/ timeout/ <br>
annoyance could be permanently removed, and the residents would <br>
collectively own their own infrastructure.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Sam<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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