<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">For what it’s worth Mitra, in my day job I develop products - often from plastic. I design injection moulded parts, have a full CNC machine shop at home including 3d printing, and relationships with factories in China and Australia. An enclosure like this is about a $10k tool, and no more than $0.40 per set (front and back clamshell) with an MOQ of 2000pcs or so.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If there was a final footprint / PCBA, making an enclosure wouldn’t be a particularly expensive or complex endeavour. That assumes someone is going to mass produce these however.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you need something 3D printed or machined moving forward however, shoot me a message<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 24 Sep 2021, at 11:20 am, Mitra Ardron <<a href="mailto:mitra@mitra.biz" class="">mitra@mitra.biz</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<blockquote class=""><p class="">Yes, I meant the one on the video. <br class="">
</p><p class="">3D printing is a totally fine way of doing an enclosure in low
volumes, but is a massive difference in both reality and "cost"
between buying something on Alibaba or just via paypal from
someone who has built them before, and something only available
as a CAD/3D printer file. I've gone through the process of
finding a 3D printing shop, and getting something made, with a
less than 50% success rate, and a one-off is always more
expensive as even a good shop has to allow for the likely cost
of getting it wrong the first time.<br class="">
</p><p class="">One of the advantages disaster.radio potentially has over some
of the other solutions its the potential for geek-free setup and
install. I can figure it out, but most of the villages around
here - who could use a setup like disaster radio - don't have a
resident geek, and trying to find a 3D printer to print a
one-off certainly puts it in the needs-a-geek bucket.</p><p class="">The enclosure Sam suggests sounds a better candidate, though it
needs the panel mounted separately. <br class="">
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<blockquote class=""><p class="">I'll try that enclosure you suggest - its a good price. But I'm
wondering, have you tried using one of them with the other parts
in that part list? How did you handle mounting to and getting
the aerial out, Are those connectors the right size for that,
without looking in detail at the components I'm guessing it
would want the small connectors for the solar panel cable but
its unclear if the 4-8 or 9-12 connector would be best for the
antenna proposed - I think the smaller (the antenna says 8mm) <br class="">
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On 24/9/21 7:10 am, Code Bus wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">What enclosure are you referring to?<br class="">
If you mean the one featured in the video, you're free to make
them yourself. The design exists as CAD and in 3d printable
formats in the github repository. It is not less "real" simply
because it hasn't been mass produced.<br class="">
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Otherwise, like we've suggested, you can follow the Aliexpress
parts list and make a working device, or use any enclosure
designed to prevent water ingress.<br class="">
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<div class="">Sep 23, 2021, 20:46 by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mitra@mitra.biz">mitra@mitra.biz</a>:<br class="">
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<div class="">Thanks Sam<br class="">
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<div class="">I was looking at the enclosure shown on the image on
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://disaster.radio/">https://disaster.radio/</a> and thought that might have been real
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<div class="">On 23/9/21 10:30 pm, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sam@bristolwireless.net">sam@bristolwireless.net</a> wrote:<br class="">
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<blockquote class="">Can you clarify what the current state is - i.e.
if I got the boards, built a pair of units, and flashed it -
then would the chat and map apps talk over it.<br class="">
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<div class="">Yes that should be possible. You can buy them pre-flashed
if you want to miss that step:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000396836096.html">https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000396836096.html</a><br class="">
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<div class="">If using the webapp you only get a chat.<br class="">
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<div class="">If you use the Android app then you get a chat and a map
AFAIK.<br class="">
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<blockquote class="">By the way ... I notice there is a bad link to the
enclosure on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://disaster.radio/build/">https://disaster.radio/build/</a><br class="">
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<div class="">Thx started fixing that link here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/sudomesh/disaster-radio-website/pull/12">https://github.com/sudomesh/disaster-radio-website/pull/12</a>
awaiting someone to approve.<br class="">
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<div class="">This was the enclosure used:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000452268197.html">https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000452268197.html</a><br class="">
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<div class="">It's fairly obvious how to put it together, but there are
some instructions here too:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://hackaday.io/project/170069-disaster-radio-lora-mesh">https://hackaday.io/project/170069-disaster-radio-lora-mesh</a><br class="">
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<div class="">- Mitra<br class="">
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<div class="">On 23/9/21 10:49 am, Code Bus wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">The project lacks a maintainer with enough time to
really give it the care it needs.<br class="">
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<div class="">I've been spending my free time trying to modify the
firmware for the v3 dual-module prototype, it is
slow-going.<br class="">
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<div class="">Other LoRa boards seem to work pretty well with the
firmware in its current state<br class="">
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<div class="">Sep 22, 2021, 20:37 by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mitra@mitra.biz">mitra@mitra.biz</a>:<br class="">
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<div class=""> I tried to find out what was happening with
Disaster Radio, by<br class="">
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<div class=""> asking here - got zero responses :-( its really
hard to figure out<br class="">
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<div class=""> if there is anything going on that is useful to
connect with :-(<br class="">
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<div class=""> On 23/9/21 9:48 am, Greg Troxel wrote:<br class="">
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<div class=""> eM Grzegorz<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:emgrzegorz@interia.pl"><emgrzegorz@interia.pl></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:emgrzegorz@interia.pl"><mailto:emgrzegorz@interia.pl></a> writes:<br class="">
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<blockquote class=""> Hi,active list?Grzegorz<br class="">
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<div class=""> Sort of. When people ask, someone answers. But
not much seems to be<br class="">
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<div class=""> happening. I do have the impression that those
on the list wish there'd<br class="">
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<div class=""> be more activity, and that most of them sort of
hope to contribute. I<br class="">
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<div class=""> of course do not speak for the coalition.<br class="">
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<div class=""> Perhaps you can tell us why you're interested
and what you'd like to see<br class="">
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<div class=""> as highest priority.<br class="">
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