[sudo-discuss] Making Club Maté at Sudo Room for Sudo-Profit: A Business Plan
Patrik D'haeseleer
patrikd at gmail.com
Tue Apr 9 14:37:27 PDT 2013
+1 on getting a keg if you'll be making (and carbonating) a couple gallons
at a time! And yes, a keg would definitely come in handy for beermaking as
well.
For Mate, consider using Stevia or xylitol as diabetes and tooth-friendly
alternatives. That will also cut down on the risk of exploding bottles due
to spontaneous fermentation...
Patrik
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
> refrigeration is also very helpful during forced carbonation...
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry's_law
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> +1 on getting some sudo corny kegs as it would also help subiir by
> obviating the need to sanitize bottles. also corny kegs are much, much
> easier to clean than sankey kegs. i'm trying to get a CO2 tank right now
> but it will probably wind up living in a metalshop somewhere...
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> keep your peepers peeled for cheap kegs people!
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> Apr 9, 2013 02:21:23 PM, freedom at jonahsilas.net wrote:
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> I love this idea, though the business end may be a little tough.
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> FWIW I am not a Sudo Roomer, just a fan -- but am an experienced
> homebrewer and beverage maker and would happily coach/offer
> assistance to anyone undertaking this. Feel free to email me
> directly!
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> Some bullet points:
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> * Selling beverages in America is a PITA. I believe you need to use
> certified food prep space, etc. Giving away beverages and accepting
> donations however is not technically selling anything. ;-)
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> * Used soda kegs are a great food safe stainless steel option for
> brewing things and dispensing them:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_kegs
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> * If using such kegs a CO2 tank/regulator is indicated. Worth the
> $100 investment as you can now carbonate anything (SudoSeltzer,
> SudoSoda, whatever) at a fraction of the cost of a soda stream, plus
> can store stuff in sterile CO2 instead of that lousy air stuff.
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> * Flip top ("Grolsch") bottles are awesome for small scale
> production.
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> * Consider lacto-fermenting for carbonation to add probiotic magic
> to the clubby awesomeness:
> http://www.westonaprice.org/food-features/lacto-fermented-soft-drinks
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> * Regardless refrigeration is helpful. You will never get truly
> sterile, just sanitary, storage and anything with lots of sugar will
> ferment. It is what nature does with sugar. Then you get sulfur-y,
> boozy mate...
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> Hope this gets some traction!
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> Best,
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> JSS
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> Max Klein:
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> > Club Mate[1] is a carbonated tea drink which is hugely
> popular amongst European Hackers. I thought about importing it,
> but that would imply $3/bottle[2], which would leave us with slim
> profit margins. Let's try and make 10% of sudoroom's budget
> through profits.
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> > I am committing up to $300 in funding to this, in an attempt
> to make 100 bottles as a proof of concept. I need your assistance
> on any of the following sub-points. Accept to do the following or
> provide input on the wiki[3] and I'll write you a cheque as
> needed:
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> > ==Business Plan==
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> > Initial Funding: up to $300
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> > Target Sales: $200 - $300
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> > 1. Make it.
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> > 1. Buy sufficient raw mate
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> > 1. for 50L ~ 100 bottles
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> > 1. Assuming 500ml bottles
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> > 2. We could also use 333ml bottles
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> > 2. Brew it
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> > 1. Will we need a vat?
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> > 1. Do we have a vat?
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> > 2. Can a metal worker at sudo make us a vat
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> > 3. Spice it if necessary
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> > 1. Following this guide[4] maybe
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> > 2. Or allow adventurous sudoer to blaze trail
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> > 4. Carbonate it
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> > 1. Bobby, David Wild's roommate does this
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> > 1. Ask him nicely
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> > 2. Pay him
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> > 2. Buy a soda-stream
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> > 5. Transport it too bottler
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> > 2. Bottle It.
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> > 1. Use as many recycled bottles as possible
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> > 1. Put call out for more bottles
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> > 1. Pay a homeless person worst comes to worse
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> > 2. Use the sudo capping machine
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> > 1. I believe its in the closet
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> > 3. Labelling
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> > 1.
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> > 2. Rock paper scissors can do this
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> > 4. Transport it to storage
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> > 3. Store it
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> > 1. We might be able to use the sudo closet
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> > 1. Does it require refrigerated storage?
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> > 2. Do we have a refrigerator
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> > 1. Find one or many on CL Free
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> > 4. Sell it.
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> > 1. Target price $2-3/bottle depending on investment
> figures
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> > 2. Always at sudo, but also at specialized events
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> > 3. At Oakland Nights live
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> > 4. At an events night fundraiser
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> > 1. Sober
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> > 1. Games tournament
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> > 2. Debate
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> > 3. Hackathon
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> > 2. Mix it with alcohol
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> > 1. At a sudorave.
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> > 2. One of the planned Movie Nights
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> > 5. At art murmur.
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> > 1. Have this ready by May 3rd.
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> > If there are there any other members from other Hackerspace
> that you think would be useful, please forward this email.
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> > Cheers Max
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> > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club-Mate
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> > [2] http://club-mate.us/
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> > [3] https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Sudomate
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> > [4]
> http://blog.makezine.com/2010/08/12/how-to-homebrew-club-mate/
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