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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">It would be worth our while for someone
      to draft a short statement that can be posted on the Workshop
      Weekend website or as a Sudo Room blog post. I'd be willing to
      help if someone did a first draft. So lame of Jean Quan to not
      even look into it.<br>
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      In sum, I think there are two major elements to committing a crime
      - the act itself and the intent. In order to have both, you need
      knowledge. There's nothing in here about the socially positive
      reasons why you'd want to teach that. Take the common experience
      everyone can relate to of locking yourself out of your house, car,
      office, etc.. People need to know how to pick locks most certainly
      in circumstances that are authorized and often in the case of an
      emergency. We may want to clarify that in regards to intent - we
      have the opposite motivation to teach people these skills. It will
      go a long way to explicitly say that we by no means condone the
      use of those skills for criminal purposes.<br>
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      We should post it and send it directly to the authors of the
      articles before the end of the day, so that a further story can be
      written about it. May also want to notify Susan Mernit @ Oakland
      Local to get a little more fair and balanced reporting.<br>
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      On 2/27/13 11:20 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">more:
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        <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-quan-apologizes-promoting-lock-picking">http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-quan-apologizes-promoting-lock-picking</a><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:15 PM,
          Matthew Senate <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattsenate@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">It's awesome, free press!<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40
                    PM, rusty lindgren <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">rustylindgren@gmail.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div>Oh dear gawd.  This is possibly the most
                        moronic piece of "journalism" I have ever seen. </div>
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                        Are they unaware of the fact that you can go to
                        a lock-picking school(actually it teaches you
                        way more), and that this is just a cheaper
                        version of that?  (see: <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.lock411.com/training.html"
                          target="_blank">http://www.lock411.com/training.html</a>).
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                      <div> Also, virtually no crime in Oakland involves
                        skilled lock-picking, because it's a waste of
                        time.  </div>
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                      <div>Don't worry though, you can train in deadly
                        martial arts, go to the shooting range, and buy
                        ninja swords just about anywhere in Oakland, but
                        picking a Masterlock is "appalling".  </div>
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                      <div>-Rusty<br>
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                        <div>On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Anca
                          Mosoiu <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div>Hi everyone,
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                              <div>Heads up. <span></span>Looks like
                                some folks aren't too happy that people
                                are learning how to pick locks this
                                weekend.</div>
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                              <div><span
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href="http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047"
                                    target="_blank">http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047</a></span><br>
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href="http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning-weekend-lockpicking-class-really"
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                                  <div>Anca</div>
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                                  <div>Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal</div>
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