considering that i was called an idiot and met with hostility when my original intent was to get some more information on the subject. i'd be interested in keeping this discussion public.<div><br></div><div>-Wolfy<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Anon195714 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anon195714@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">anon195714@sbcglobal.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Re. Hep:<br>
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Rather than just sling a sentence-full of unsupported ad-hominems
(clue: ad-homs = you lose), how'bout unpacking that nonsense and
spelling it out? <br>
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Assertion: gang violence kills more young black men than police do.
That's an assertion of fact. If you don't like it, you're welcome
to try to disprove it. Go get some numbers. <br>
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Question: where are the protests over gang violence? The question
stands. Show us a mass protest at a known gang house after a
particularly egregious shooting. <br>
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A young black guy I knew was killed in a drive-by. Ever hear of
Tupac Shakur? I was one of his 2nd Engs. at Starlight Studios in
Richmond. He was ferociously brilliant. Murdered at age 25.<br>
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"Privileged": about 1/3 of SudoRoom members are unemployed and many
are borderline homeless. Admittedly that's a rough estimate. But
if you don't like my numbers, get some better ones. <br>
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Full-time jobs at decent wages would be a good thing: What don't
you like about that? Gandhi once said "Western civilization would
be a good thing." I say worker solidarity would be a good thing.
But you can't have worker solidarity until people have work. A job
at decent wages isn't a privilege, it's a human right. And hackers
picking up more trade-skills is also a good thing.<br>
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Let's take this to private email so we don't digress the list. <br>
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-G.<br>
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<div>On 13-02-28-Thu 8:35 AM, hep wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:13 AM,
Anon195714 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anon195714@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">anon195714@sbcglobal.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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As for comparing "'known gang member'" to "the more
privileged class": that's postmodern BS. The #1 killer
of young black men in Oakland isn't police bullets but
gang bullets. So where are the outraged protests in
front of known gang enclaves, eh? This isn't an
abstraction: a young black man I knew was killed in a
drive-by. As for "privileged class," about 1/3 of
SudoRoom members are unemployed, and many are
borderline-homeless. A few more "privileges," such as
full-time jobs that pay decent wages, would be a good
thing. <br>
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<div>What's up sudoroomers? Hugely concerned about
all the racist, classist, and privileged BS that was
spouted in this paragraph right here. </div>
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