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</head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">I think the statement is
excellent, and I love how Eddan very cleverly sets the lock picking
class in the context of SudoRoom's own entrance issues. <br>
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Michael <br>
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rusty lindgren wrote:
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cite="mid:CADf_g6mDzvj4y8UA7-HSkx6EzJw1WE6LJhQP_Z06eAMrV_-H8A@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I think links are good, and I wish there was a picture or
two of some of us, or maybe a project that people in the public could
see that we we're working on.
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<div>-Rusty</div>
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On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Eddan <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:eddan@clear.net" target="_blank">eddan@clear.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">of
course. please help correct and improve. also, was on the fence about
using a bunch of links - wondering what others think.</div><div
class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM, rusty lindgren <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com"
target="_blank">rustylindgren@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Eddan,</div><div><br>Would
you consider revising to allow this POV? </div><div><ol><li>
Can you make it clear that not all members were okay with the treatment
by the press, and that we invite them to publicly address us? </li>
<li>Can you put something in about how knowing more about your locks and
those services could be leveraged against further scams, and that
community programs can lead to less fraud, when awareness is raised? </li><li>Also,
can we remove or revise this line: "We can certainly sympathize with
the overwhelming task of responsibly editing a large amount of
information such as what is in the Mayors’ newsletter." <br>
To me, I'm against apologizing for lock-picking classes, and this sounds
like we're saying it shouldn't have been in there in the first place.
I know it's hooked to something else you wrote, but I don't agree with
it.<br>
</li></ol></div><div>If you want, I could revise the wording and send it
back to you, and if anyone else wanted to help they could. </div><div><br></div><div>Other
than that, it's well written and classier than my response would be,
which is good for the group :D. </div>
<div><br></div><div>-Rusty<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On
Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Eddan <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:eddan@clear.net" target="_blank">eddan@clear.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p>Not sure how to append
or collate this with Daniel's section, but included below is a draft of
suggested comments I tried piecing together. I think that if we are to
have a statement, that we should merge our various contributions to
represent one voice. I'm not sure what platform is best to do this kind
of thing on, but have had some positive experience with <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.co-ment.com/" target="_blank">http://www.co-ment.com/</a>.</p>
<p><br></p><p>sent from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://eddan.com" target="_blank">eddan.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>---</p><p>To
our community – </p>
<p>It is in good conscience that we, the members of Sudo Room,
host the Lock-Picking session at the Workshop Weekend taking place at
2141
Broadway [and Tech Liminal] today. As even a quick glance at the rest of
the
program would make clear, we are a diverse community of technologists,
artists,
and activists joined together by the ambition of figuring things out for
ourselves and teaching other people how to do it.</p>
<p>A further step back would reveal a context of free and open
to the public educational opportunities covering everything from sewing
recycled fabric into sustainable clothing; making vanilla extract to
experiment
with new flavors of ice cream; creating a transparent and democratic
corporate
governance; and indeed yes – taking locks apart and reverse engineering
software.</p>
<p>Regarding the option of calling a locksmith, an Oakland
resident locked out of their house or car should be advised to read
through the
peer review websites carefully for reputable services before calling
their number.
It is our general belief that public safety is better served when the
skills
necessary to be hired as a locksmith, for example, are taught in
classrooms
rather than by picking it up in the actual commission of crimes.</p>
<p>We share in our city’s mourning of the death of Kiante
Campbell at the Art Murmur last month. Collectively and as individuals,
we are
also aware of and concerned about the alarming levels of crime in our
neighborhoods. It is in fact those concerns that have made for the
greatest
challenges in offering an openly accessible entrance to our building.
Being a
horizontally-governed organization, the compromised option of only
several
people having the keys is problematic. We are now experimenting in our
own
space with ways that can increase security while preserving the privacy
of the
general public. We intend to share our results publicly on our website
and
wiki, as with all of our other projects, so that public safety in
Oakland can
be more effectively enforced.</p>
<p>We regret that Mayor Quan stepped back from her support of
the event, though we appreciate her support for our innovative programs
that
are bringing about an emergent start-up technology culture in downtown
Oakland.
We can certainly sympathize with the overwhelming task of responsibly
editing a
large amount of information such as what is in the Mayors’ newsletter.
We
intend for this unfortunate series of misunderstandings to be yet
another
incentive for us to work on some of the projects we’ve already started –
those
aimed towards more efficiently sorting through large volumes of
information to
allow for making editorial judgment calls more fairly.</p>
<p>We would like to take this unsolicited opportunity to make
our intentions clear with Police Chief Jordan and Mayor Quan. We have
among us
people who can contribute a great deal to solving our law enforcement
technology problems and addressing the cyber-security concerns of
critical
infrastructure such as the Port of Oakland. We hope to get a chance to
work
together with our city’s leaders in bringing cutting-edge capacity
building to
the people of Oakland with sustainable and equitable economic
structures. We
are trying to be very conscientious about it – we welcome you to drop by
one of
our many events or visit our website for information about our
initiatives.</p>
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class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Daniel Finlay <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:namelessdan@gmail.com" target="_blank">namelessdan@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Anca's
right, this is a huge opportunity.<div><br></div><div>Lower dues,
anyone?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Here's my caricature of opportunism, feel free to
tune down the tone to your tact level of preference:</div><div><br></div><div><div
style="margin:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Consolas">The admonition
of lockpicking classes by the Mayor and Police Chief of Oakland are as
unconscionable as the thefts they purport to be in fear of. While the
alarmists claim that publicly available lockpicking classes may promote
criminal activity, they lose sight that this class is in the context of a
larger public enrichment.</div>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Consolas"> </p><div
style="margin:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Consolas">Despite being
only a few months old, Sudoroom has already made itself host to a wide
variety of educational, cooperative, and even marketable skill-building
classes and events for hundreds of local residents. From programming
computers and 3-D printing to curing cheese and modifying DNA, Sudo Room
is a free, community sponsored place for fostering the collaborative
creativity that comes with groups full of intellectual curiosity in a
time of as much change and development as this one.</div>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Consolas"> </p><div
style="margin:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Consolas">In a time where
people's opportunities might lead them to crime, perhaps we ought to
provide better alternatives rather than stupefying the public as a form
of self defense.</div>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Consolas"> </p><div
style="margin:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Consolas">Let us address
the cause of this sickness rather than try to snuff out its symptoms,
and give ourselves access to an unfettered flow of knowledge and
opportunity. We encourage you to participate in this local renaissance,
by visiting the Sudoroom yourself, and taking part in any of the
classes of your interest. You can always find the upcoming events at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://sudoroom.org/calendar"
target="_blank">sudoroom.org/calendar</a>, or just stop by almost any
time to join your neighbors in their curious pursuits.</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>Feel free to fork it at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://gist.github.com/flyswatter/5070131"
target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/flyswatter/5070131</a></div><div><br></div><div>-Dan</div><div><br></div><div>
<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div>On Mar 1, 2013, at 11:27
PM, Anca Mosoiu <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:anca@techliminal.com" target="_blank">anca@techliminal.com</a>>
wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div
class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Michael Scroggins <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michaeljscroggins@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaeljscroggins@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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The sentence implicitly draws a difference of kind between the lock
picking class and the other Workshop Weekend classes. Doing so invites
the question: What is the difference that makes broadcasting this
workshop (in the way it was) regrettable? In an environment where the
mayor, the chief of police and the media have all given the same answer -
the class breeds criminals - allowing that question is regrettable.</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It's
regrettable because it gave some easy pickings for the people who want
to portray Oakland, and the current administration, in a certain way.
Many of the people who are upset about the workshop aren't upset about
lockpicking, they're upset that Jean Quan appears to encourage crime in
her newsletter.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It's regrettable because it sucked up airwaves and
mental effort that might have been better spent.</div><div><br></div><div>Drafting
a reasoned and reasonable response lowers the blood pressure of the
people who are up in arms just because they aren't informed. Some of
them will come around, especially if they understand the actual intent
of the class. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Eddan, I'd like to participate in writing a
statement. I was really taken aback when I read some of the emails and
talked to some of the people who were actually upset.</div><div>
<br></div><div>The media storm will blow over with the next
foot-in-mouth opportunity from a local politician, but we have a great
opportunity to reach out while the world is looking. <br></div><div><br></div>
<div>Anca.</div><div><br></div><div> </div></div>-- <br>-=-=-=-<div>Anca
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