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24/7 card key access for trusted members is good. But it should be
considered a privilege, not a right, and not something everyone
gets, and certainly not something people get instantly when they
sign up. <br>
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24/7 card key access immediately upon signing the membership list is
bad, bad, bad, it's an invitation to all manner of creeps, crooks,
and potential theft & violence, and I'll hard block it in a
ten-second minute on the basis of the "safe space" principal. <br>
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"Open" is not synonymous with "easy." <br>
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Sorry to be taking a hard line on this, but the last thing we need
is for someone to get robbed or raped by some creep who figured us
for an easy target. The stakes are too high, and the benefits
aren't worth the risks. <br>
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-G. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13-04-04-Thu 11:56 AM, rusty
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cite="mid:CADf_g6ngP3MSpf-4w=0sbrgEmeMz3q+PWAtiqF_o6NADFn-=Hw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Hey Everyone,
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Just thought I would point this out, since it came up earlier in
the dues thread. But, Marc's point(a very good marketing point
about 24/7 access), has as a big security exception, we didn't
really talk about, probably mostly because of time.<br>
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<div>Basically, it's easy for us to think "hey, we should let
this person have access, because they seem cool, and we want
to remain open," but even I get sketched out at night
sometimes, and there are real safety issues at work here, and
we should discuss them in relation to cost/benefits for the
space. It's also entirely possible that we trust someone, and
they just do something bad anyway. We don't really spend a
lot of time thinking about this, but this is something we
haven't had to really deal with yet, because we've had really
shitty access up until now. </div>
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<div>I don't know if my survey asked this question properly, but
I was trying to see if 24/7 access was worth more to people as
a value, but I think for some people it could be a safety
draw-back, and at least in 1 case this is true. I also am not
sure it's really something we should be promoting, if we do
decide on it being okay for members to do. </div>
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<div>If anyone wants to post about how they feel about this(I
think it really is about feelings in this case, because it's
about promoting membership and establishing wants/needs), then
please feel free to reply here. </div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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