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    Thanks, and a) it's true, and b) I just pulled an allnighter to
    reply to an RFP for a 100-station PBX to be installed in July, c) my
    brain was already mushed last night, and d) as a result of b + c I'm
    loopy as hell right now;-) and about to get 4 hours sleep before
    heading back to client site in SF to work on their PBX toward their
    move next week which has to be absolutely seamless.  <br>
    <br>
    Which is also why I'm highly skeptical of people who say they want
    to run a telco/ISP on volunteer labor, but that's another topic (or
    dead horse;-) for another day.  <br>
    <br>
    -G.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13-04-05-Fri 10:30 AM, Anthony Di
      Franco wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial
          narrow,sans-serif">You are too kind.<br>
          And, I emailed the list to start discussion and prompt
          background reading to get everyone potentially interested /
          affected up to a basic level of understanding about what would
          be going on and the implications. So it is important not to
          trust my judgement too much.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:22 AM,
          Anon195714 <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:anon195714@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">anon195714@sbcglobal.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              The reason I'm (apparently uncritically;-) enthusiastic is
              that Anthony & I are friends and we've discussed
              freedom & privacy issues extensively.  He's a coder
              with serious smarts/skills/background, and he walks his
              talk ferociously, so if he's endorsing something as a
              viable privacy application, I trust his judgement.  <br>
              <br>
              -G.<br>
              "Freedom & privacy: you can't have one without the
              other!"<br>
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                  <div>On 13-04-05-Fri 10:16 AM, Steve Berl wrote:<br>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">I'd want to dive a bit deeper
                    to understand "Several mechanisms are provided to
                    protect the user's privacy"
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                    <div>Steve<span></span><br>
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                      On Friday, April 5, 2013, Anon195714 wrote:<br>
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                          Hell yeah!  Double hellyeah!  And another
                          thing to put on CTel "freedom box" home
                          servers on the mesh.<br>
                          <br>
                          I'd love to try this.  <br>
                          <br>
                          (My brain is mushed tonight from a pretty
                          exhausting day in the field, else I'd say
                          more;-)<br>
                          <br>
                          -G.<br>
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                          <div>On 13-04-05-Fri 12:25 AM, Anthony Di
                            Franco wrote:<br>
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                              <div class="gmail_default"><font
                                  face="arial narrow, sans-serif">Sudo
                                  room is a room with a bunch of
                                  computer hardware in it much of it
                                  idle and a community of people many of
                                  them not idle many of whom like free
                                  access to information and
                                  privacy-respecting technology and
                                  social institutions and dislike
                                  pervasive surveillance by state and
                                  corporate actors and oligopolistic
                                  private control of vital public
                                  resources.</font></div>
                              <div class="gmail_default"><font
                                  face="arial narrow, sans-serif"><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YaCy"
                                    target="_blank">YaCy</a> <span
                                    style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px">is


                                    a </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software"
                                    title="Free software"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;font-size:12.499999046325684px;line-height:19.192707061767578px"
                                    target="_blank">free</a><span
                                    style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px"> </span><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_search_engine"
                                    title="Distributed search engine"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;font-size:12.499999046325684px;line-height:19.192707061767578px"
                                    target="_blank">distributed search
                                    engine</a><span
                                    style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px">,
                                    built on principles of </span><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer"
                                    title="Peer-to-peer"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;font-size:12.499999046325684px;line-height:19.192707061767578px"
                                    target="_blank">peer-to-peer</a><span
style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px"> (P2P)


                                    networks. </span><span
                                    style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px">All


                                    YaCy-peers are equal and no central</span><span
style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px"> </span><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_%28computing%29"
                                    title="Server (computing)"
style="font-size:12.499999046325684px;line-height:19.192707061767578px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none"
                                    target="_blank">server</a><span
                                    style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px"> </span><span
style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px">exists.


                                    It can be run either in a</span><span
style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px"> </span><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_crawler"
                                    title="Web crawler"
style="font-size:12.499999046325684px;line-height:19.192707061767578px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none"
                                    target="_blank">crawling</a> <span
                                    style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px">mode


                                    or as a local</span><span
                                    style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px"> </span><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server"
                                    title="Proxy server"
style="font-size:12.499999046325684px;line-height:19.192707061767578px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none"
                                    target="_blank">proxy server</a><span
style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px">,
                                    indexing web pages visited by the
                                    person running YaCy on his or her
                                    computer. (Several mechanisms are
                                    provided to protect the user's
                                    privacy.)</span></font></div>
                              <p
                                style="line-height:19.192707061767578px;font-size:12.499999046325684px;margin:0.4em
                                0px 0.5em"><font face="arial narrow,
                                  sans-serif">Access to the search
                                  functions is </font></p>
                              <div style="display:inline"
                                class="gmail_default"> <font
                                  face="arial narrow, sans-serif">given</font></div>
                              <font face="arial narrow, sans-serif"> by
                                a locally running web server which
                                provides a search box to enter search
                                terms, and returns search results in a
                                similar format to other popular search
                                engines.
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                                  class="gmail_default"> </div>
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                              <div style="display:inline"
                                class="gmail_default"><font face="arial
                                  narrow, sans-serif">Thoughts?</font></div>
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                    -steve<br>
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