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Sonja, Romy, & YOs-<br>
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Yep, and I mis-read that part too (what you said, "I'm trying to
help you duh! LOL"). <br>
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That's what two hours' sleep the night before, does to my head.
Four hours' sleep, I'm tolerably lucid. Two hours, eh, forget it,
at that point I'm basically tripping-out. <br>
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Chronic sleep deprivation sucks, and I'm on track for another night
of four hours' sleep right now (one more service request to complete
after a brief break here...), and a lengthy field item to deal with
in San Francisco today Wednesday. <br>
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Monday was a mess and a write-off day. Sorry if I pissed anyone
off. If there are any remaining "issues" they can be dealt with
one-to-one, in person. I may be late getting to the meeting,
depending on the work in San Francisco. <br>
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-G.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13-05-21-Tue 10:09 AM, Sonja Trauss
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cite="mid:CAEMAOD7O1z+y+YkHviBmx5pHpKqReOnC2TqxUT7K9GEAwHep5g@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I'm trying to help you duh! Lol<span></span><br>
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On Tuesday, May 21, 2013, GtwoG PublicOhOne wrote:<br>
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The dumb thing about saying "the dumb thing about this
thread," is that in the time it takes to complain about
someone else's use of recycled electrons, one could have
ignored the thread entirely, or done some other productive
task, rather than telling the author of the thread what task
they should have been doing instead. <br>
<br>
If I'm not interested in a topic, I just don't read that
topic, or thread, or whatever.<br>
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And one of the key reasons that rents are so high, is that a
state legislator from somewhere in 925 managed to pass, about
15 years ago, a state bill that effectively wiped out rent
control. Getting him voted out of office would be good
retaliation (better late than never) if he's still around, but
introducing a ballot measure to re-establish rent control
would be even better. That will also take some of the
speculative pressure off the finite supply of land.
Ultimately what's going to be needed is some kind of
comprehensive land reform, prohibiting speculation and the
mechanisms that feed it. Another topic for another day.<br>
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-G.<br>
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<div>On 13-05-21-Tue 7:19 AM, Sonja Trauss wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">The dumb thing about this thread is
that in the time it took to write any of the multiple
paragraph emails, the author could have looked to see
whether there are any organizations in SF (or
berkeley) lobbying to make building new housing housing
easier.
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<div>Whether or not you can have a relationship in a single
bed is irrelevant. Everyone agrees here, rent is too damn
high. Part of the cause of this is artificially limited
supply. <span></span><br>
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On Tuesday, May 21, 2013, Georgio510 wrote:<br>
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Re. Romy-<br>
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Yes, apts in HK and Tokyo are small, but not so small
that you can't have a double bed and a dinner table
(Tokyo apts even have space for small washing machines
& small wall-mounted dryers). And in any case,
Japan has a decent social safety net, something we
shredded starting with Reagan. <br>
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If you're interested, I can show you some floorplans
I've created for micro living spaces. The stuff I
designed is geared toward the hacker/maker lifestyle
with a strong emphasis on sustainability. I'd happily
live in a tiny space of my own making, but not a
developer's design that can't be hacked or modded and
is geared toward the media-consumption lifestyle. <br>
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Agreed, the large houses Americans have had for the
past century or so are ridiculous, not to mention
_lawns_. But there's a difference between a wasteful
4,000 square foot suburban sprawl, and an apartment
that's smaller than a camping trailer. <br>
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Something else about those tiny apartments: if your
best friend loses his/her job, s/he can't sleep on
your couch when there's no room for a couch. Sleeping
on the floor in the tiny aisle next to your bed gets
old after about the second time s/he gets stepped on
when you get out of bed at night to go to the
bathroom. <br>
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The Oligarchy likes to have it both ways: Big houses
for people who can afford to buy more stuff.
Prison-sized apartments for people who can't.
Increase the class divide: more at the top, less at
the bottom. <br>
<br>
The profit motive for those prison-sized apartments is
that developers get more per square foot. $750 for
200 square feet translates to $3.75 per square foot.
Contrast to $2,000 for 800 square feet, which
translates to $2.50 per square foot. <br>
<br>
See how that works? Fifty percent increase in price
per square foot. Clever racket, eh?<br>
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Decrease in cars is a factor of available public
transport for the hours and places needed. Someone
who works the late shift across the Bay and comes home
after BART stops running, is probably going to end up
with a car, even if they have to play parking space
roulette every day. BART running 24/7 would do more
to decrease car commuting in the Bay Area, than
squeezing people into shoe-boxes.<br>
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Larger apartments mean you have more choices as to how
you live and who you live with. Smaller apartments
mean fewer choices. Again, we're not talking about
multi-thousand-square-foot sprawl, but about having
enough space for someone to choose whether to live
alone or with a friend, or offer their couch to an
unemployed friend, or the options available for single
parents with kids who are toddlers or older. <br>
<br>
200 square feet also means you can't telecommute or
telework, because there's not enough space for even a
small desk for a computer. Using a tablet while
sitting on the edge of the bed gets old real fast
too. And forget about modifying the space in any way:
those places are like hotel rooms, no user
modifications or space hacks allowed. What's
important is _choice_. The choice to work and play at
home sometimes, and in communal space sometimes. <br>
<br>
How these neo boarding houses are worse than work
lofts: for one thing, you can't work there. And no
space for a kitchen table, so forget about inviting
friends over for dinner. No space for anything that
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