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    Andrew, YOs-<br>
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    Do those dynamics occur?  Hell yes.  Thanks for calling out that
    stuff.  <br>
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    Smart people aren't immune to the common human faults of lower-level
    brain wiring and socialization: status games, power-plays,
    backbiting, cruelty, implicit orthodoxies, dogmas,
    self-contradictions against stated principles, and a host of
    "taboos" that forbid challenging much of the rest of it.  Misogyny
    is one axis of nastiness and there are many others.  <br>
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    Culture is the ultimate hacker challenge: a complex ad-hoc network
    of quantum supercomputers called brains, in mobile platforms called
    human bodies, running the Human Operating System overlaid with
    lifetimes of social patches, and in major need of bug fixes.  <br>
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    -G.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13-05-29-Wed 6:05 PM, Andrew wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">This is an article I came across lately. Check it
        out. Here is an excerpt:
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        <div>"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Georgia,'times
            new roman',times,serif;font-size:16px;line-height:23.1875px">For
            me, then, the "fake geek girls" meme doesn't so much call
            into question the bona fides of the women in question as it
            calls into question "geek culture"—real or otherwise. Eddin
            praises geeks for being wiling to "challenge cultural
            norms"—but are you really challenging the norms of a
            capitalist society when you define yourself by your
            relationship to the crap you buy?</span>
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            roman',times,serif;font-size:16px;line-height:23.1875px">
            I'm not saying that people shouldn't love the art they love.
            But I am suggesting that the mean-spiritedness of geek
            culture—a mean-spiritedness that is often, but by no means
            always, directed at women—is not an accident. A culture that
            values knowledge and access above all things is going to be
            a culture dedicated to hierarchy and to power—to defining
            who is in and who is out. Such defining involves, and is
            meant to involve, a good deal of antagonism, score-settling,
            back-biting, and cruelty. There's not much point in defining
            yourself as the knower if you cannot define others as those
            who do not know."</p>
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            roman',times,serif;font-size:16px;line-height:23.1875px"><a
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href="http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/01/fake-geek-girls-paranoia-is-about-male-insecurity-not-female-duplicity/267402/">http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/01/fake-geek-girls-paranoia-is-about-male-insecurity-not-female-duplicity/267402/</a><br>
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          <div>Andrew Lowe</div>
          <div>Cell: 831-332-2507</div>
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