<div dir="ltr">One important point is that <a href="http://kickstarter.com">kickstarter.com</a> is not a very good way to get your project known. There are very few people out there just waiting for your project to appear so they can contribute. You MUST aggressively market your kickstarter campaign using every available channel. It is up to you to get it known via all sorts of social networks (both online and real world), personal contacts, business associates, billboards, whatever you've got.<div>
<br></div><div style>I've seen several campaigns fail miserably because the folks weren't able to get the word out well enough.</div><div style><br></div><div style>-steve</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Andrew <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@roshambomedia.com" target="_blank">andrew@roshambomedia.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>Just to bring this back full circle. My point in posting this was to point out that there are people with money willing to give that money to you with no strings attached if you have a project and a funny video.</p>
<p>Imagine what the mesh project or sudo radio could do with $10,000. I know that lots of money does not = great project, but i would encourage some of the projects out there to think in terms of what they want to do (dream big), instead of what they can do now by scraping together parts on with a non existent budget.</p>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p>--Andrew</p></font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 31, 2013 9:54 AM, "Steve Berl" <<a href="mailto:steveberl@gmail.com" target="_blank">steveberl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Is there no interest at all in hetero sheep? Don't we want to be inclusive of the entire community of giant sheep?<div><br></div><div>;-)</div><div><br></div><div>steve</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:03 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:g2g-public01@att.net" target="_blank">g2g-public01@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<br>
Yo Andrew, you're OK and I know you're not a homophobe. Your
statements didn't come across as homophobic _at all_. Mildly
sarcastic yes, homophobic no. Sarcasm is good, no apologies needed.<br>
<br>
I've seen some pretty obnoxo bits come across these tubes, including
nasty ad-hominems, assertions of superiority, category put-downs,
and "I refuse to hear you" stuff. Most of that seems to me to be
psychological defensiveness, heated-up by dynamics such as you
pointed out in your article excerpt yesterday, plus the usual
outcomes of a hybridized communications medium that's part
conversation, part broadcast, delayed rather than realtime, and
minus all nonverbal cues. <br>
<br>
Generally the sting wears off after a few days and then it's over
& done with. Contrast to: imagine if every conversation you
ever had at a pub, was preserved for posterity and searchable under
your name. (The idea that this stuff needs to be indexed &
searchable is more than a little narcissistic: to quote someone I
was hanging out with last night, are we really so important?) <br>
<br>
Knowing the person at the other end of the wire, and being able to
translate their writing into their spoken voice, makes many of those
issues disappear. In my mind's ear I hear you telling sheep jokes.
They're not bad, for sheep jokes;-)<br>
<br>
OK, so who's going to launch a Kickstarter to build another giant
gay sheep?<br>
<br>
Or how'bout a couple of giant lesbian sheep? With audio chips &
speakers, so they can say to each other, "Baaa-aaa-aaa, I love ewe!"
and "Baa-aa-aaa, I love ewe too!"<br>
<br>
-G.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 13-05-30-Thu 9:22 PM, Andrew wrote:<br>
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<p>I realize that my statements may have come of as homophobic. I
apollogize and would be more that happy to talk about it in
person or otherwise directly with anyone who wants to.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 30, 2013 7:55 PM, "GtwoG
PublicOhOne" <<a href="mailto:g2g-public01@att.net" target="_blank">g2g-public01@att.net</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <br>
I'm gay & Andrew's cool with me & has no issues with
gay folks generally. Just in case anyone thinks otherwise
(incoming drama-missile intercept launched). <br>
<br>
OK, so: what to do about that sheep: <br>
<br>
Start another kickstarter to build another gay sheep, so
there'll be two of them and they can go out on dates
together. <br>
<br>
-G.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 13-05-30-Thu 2:17 PM, Matthew Meier wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">As "a gay" I think everything needs more
queering :D
<div><br>
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<div>-Wolfy</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:11
PM, Andrew <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@roshambomedia.com" target="_blank">andrew@roshambomedia.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">This project just made $200 in the
last hour. Someone at Sudo Room really wants the
Big-Ass Amazingly Awesome Homosexual Sheep to have
laser eyes!<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"> On Thu, May 30, 2013
at 2:04 PM, Jehan Tremback <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jehan.tremback@gmail.com" target="_blank">jehan.tremback@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">NO. I hate sudo room
>:-|</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May
30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Max B <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maxb.personal@gmail.com" target="_blank">maxb.personal@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hahaha
yeah on second thought I'm not
actually curious why you would
say that. I'm happy to let it be
a hole in my knowledge of the
world.<br>
<br>
We can (probably?) all agree
that a sudoroom crowdfunding
project would be more admirable
than a lot of others on
kickstarter?
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On Thu 30 May 2013 01:52:50 PM
PDT, Jehan Tremback wrote:<br>
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<div> Drama incoming...<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:44
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wrote:<br>
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"Also Burning Man does
not need queering."...<br>
<br>
what makes you say that?<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu 30 May 2013
01:27:18 PM PDT, Andrew
wrote:<br>
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No, I think a giant
sheep that you enter through
the ass is<br>
way less<br>
admirable than
making a crowd funded movie.
I think crowd funded<br>
movies are extremely
important, given what
traditional funding has<br>
done to the
creativity of film.<br>
<br>
Also Burning Man
does not need queering.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, May 30, 2013
at 12:49 PM, Max B<br>
<<a href="mailto:maxb.personal@gmail.com" target="_blank">maxb.personal@gmail.com</a>
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wrote:<br>
<br>
Eh I think that
queering burningman is a
much more<br>
admirable goal<br>
than, say, Zach
Braff being able to produce
his little pet<br>
project<br>
(with $3mil...)<br>
<br>
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<a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/1869987317/wish-i-____was-here-1" target="_blank">http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/1869987317/wish-i-____was-here-1</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1" target="_blank">http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1</a>>
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<<a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1" target="_blank">http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/1869987317/wish-i-__was-here-1</a><br>
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On Thu 30 May
2013 12:38:50 PM PDT, Andrew
wrote:<br>
<br>
These people
got over $10,000 to build a
giant gay<br>
sheep for<br>
Burning Man<br>
<br>
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<a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/391007482/baaahs-big-____ass-amazingly-awesome-____homosexual-sheep" target="_blank">http://www.kickstarter.com/____projects/391007482/baaahs-big-____ass-amazingly-awesome-____homosexual-sheep</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep" target="_blank">http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep</a>>
<div> <br>
<br>
<br>
<<a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep" target="_blank">http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/391007482/baaahs-big-__ass-amazingly-awesome-__homosexual-sheep</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/391007482/baaahs-big-ass-amazingly-awesome-homosexual-sheep" target="_blank">http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/391007482/baaahs-big-ass-amazingly-awesome-homosexual-sheep</a>>><br>
<br>
So, dream
big Sudoers, if they can do
it so can you...<br>
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