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Hmm, a civil lawsuit against the perp... hmm...! Very interesting,
I'll ask around... but we have to catch the guy first. The idea of
going for civil damages for the "oh shit I'm about to get shot and
die" factor, is worth pursuing. <br>
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Methinks the building owners next door are already friendly about
providing videos, because they have the same interests as we do, in
not having their tenants robbed at gunpoint. This also from
previous experience when Sam got his car broken into. It's all of
us together, against the predators. <br>
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OK, to sleep now, finally...<br>
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-G.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13-06-01-Sat 11:11 AM, johanna faust
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CA+59gZMRoz9OGY0xYEkvzR0xymGh_HK3vzLeivReMNbCguz-=Q@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(153,0,0)"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:large">"if there is
any problem at all getting the videos, then:</span></span>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#990000" face="georgia,
serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:large"><br>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#990000" face="georgia,
serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:large">California
has very good civil discovery laws. In civil discovery you
can ask for just about anything that might lead to evidence.
surveillance video is very easy to ask for and get. if you
ask for it, they have to come across with it: subpoena duces
tecum. when you require a third party to produce things.</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#990000" face="georgia,
serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:large"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#990000" face="georgia,
serif"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size:xx-large"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size:large">in other words, file a civil
lawsuit against the perps and you can make them give it
up; you have the wherewithal backed by the courts to get
the video."</span></span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#990000" face="georgia,
serif"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size:xx-large"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size:large"><br>
</span></span></font></div>
<div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#990000" face="georgia,
serif"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size:xx-large"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size:large">the preceding was advice given by
a dear friend of mine. it is of course not official legal
advice, which can only come from your lawyer.<br>
</span></span></font>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#990000"
face="georgia, serif"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size:large"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#990000"
face="georgia, serif"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size:large"><br>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#990000"
face="georgia, serif"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size:large"><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:03 AM,
johanna faust <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:female.faust@gmail.com" target="_blank">female.faust@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span
style="font-size:large"><font color="#990000"><font
face="georgia, serif">as far as i know, contact
building owners and have police report.</font></font></span>
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<span style="font-size:large"><font color="#990000"><font
face="georgia, serif"><b><br>
</b></font></font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:large"><font color="#990000"><font
face="georgia, serif"><b>NOTE: </b></font></font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:large"><font color="#990000"><font
face="georgia, serif"><b>GET THEM ASAP </b></font></font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:large"><font color="#990000"><font
face="georgia, serif"><b>some may be on a 24 or 48
hr loop</b></font></font></span><br>
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<div class="im">On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Sonja
Trauss <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sonja.trauss@gmail.com"
target="_blank">sonja.trauss@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div class="h5">
You didn't do anything wrong. You should be able
to be outside when you want. Scurrying inside at
the sight of a stranger is no kind of life. I
don't blame you for not going in.
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On Saturday, June 1, 2013, GtwoG PublicOhOne
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<font face="Courier">YOs-<br>
<br>
James and I got robbed at gunpoint,
right outside the side entrance, at
about 2:45AM on Saturday 01 June.
Nothing like thinking that you & a
friend are about to die, to screw up
an otherwise great night. <br>
<br>
No injuries, just terror. The guy
wanted our cellphones. Lucky us, I
don't have one and James had left his
upstairs. He got our wallets. It
could have been worse, he could have
killed both of us.<br>
<br>
OK, time for the
kick-myself-in-the-arse maneuver, for
not having gone inside the moment we
saw an unknown guy walking down the
street toward us late at night. I
should know better, hell I _do_ know
better, but my safety-sense was down
just long enough for the robber to get
close enough to pull the gun, and the
rest as they say, isn't history, just
another statistic that got personal.<br>
<br>
QUESTION: HOW DO WE GET THE
SURVEILLANCE VIDEOS FROM OUR BUILDING
AND THE ONE NEXTDOOR?<br>
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Peace, love, and safety y'all-<br>
<br>
-G.<br>
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