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    The three-letter agencies need a good lesson in marketing.  <br>
    <br>
    The way to do surveillance is to offer "free candy & toys" in
    exchange for tracking everything you do, everywhere you go, scanning
    for keywords and emotional tone in your email and phone calls, and
    doing the same to all your friends who write to you or talk to you
    over the intercepted channels.  <br>
    <br>
    For cover, occasionally pester you with ads that seem a little too
    personal, so you complain about the ads but don't notice Big Brother
    lurking behind the curtain.  And claim it's all consensual since
    everyone who signed up clicked the check-box "I Agree" on the
    interminably long TOS page.<br>
    <br>
    Then when it's time to increase the level of surveillance even more,
    bring out a new consumer toy, starting with beta tests offered to a
    select group of the hippest coolest people around.  That'll get
    thousands of others to want it, so they can seem as if they're part
    of the elite.  After it's gotten plenty of chirpy reviews from the
    supine media, offer it to the masses.  Alternately, find some "need"
    that can "only" be met by having even more pervasive surveillance in
    exchange for "convenience."<br>
    <br>
    That works fabulously well, as recent history shows.  And a strong
    enough plurality of the people who are being watched, listened to,
    stalked, and sniffed, will even defend it, to the point where anyone
    who objects gets labeled as a luddite. <br>
    <br>
    One more thing.  Have a young billionare as the figurehead, or come
    up with a slogan that makes the company doing it seem "different" or
    "better" than a corporate reptile.  A slogan such as "don't be
    evil." <br>
    <br>
    If the three-letter agencies did that, even a major leak wouldn't
    slow them down.  <br>
    <br>
    -G.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13-06-12-Wed 2:10 PM, Andrew wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">The FBI, hiding in plain sight.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Eddan
          Katz <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:eddan@clear.net" target="_blank">eddan@clear.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Yeah, I assumed it was a joke. One I had nothing to
                do with. A great meme, though! Makes me want to change
                my home router's SSID to van # 8.</div>
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              <div>The fact that it hits a nerve and that everybody's
                now tuned in to the joke suggests the unprecedented
                vulnerability of public opinion about NSA surveillance.<br>
                <br>
                sent from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://eddan.com" target="_blank">eddan.com</a></div>
              <div class="im">
                <div><br>
                  On Jun 12, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Julio Rios <<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com" target="_blank">julio.rios@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    <div class="im">isn't that a little too obvious of a
                      name to be for real? or am I just being
                      unnecessarily cynical about being this paranoid...
                      good list of links though.</div>
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                          On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Eddan Katz <span
                            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:eddan@clear.net"
                              target="_blank">eddan@clear.net</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                              <div>In an already apparent increase in
                                surveillance transparency, I took this
                                screenshot on my phone of an actual SSID
                                (locked) now available at Sudo Square.</div>
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                                    href="http://eddan.com"
                                    target="_blank">eddan.com</a></div>
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                                      On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:56 AM,
                                      Sonja Trauss <<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:sonja.trauss@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">sonja.trauss@gmail.com</a>>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">you could also
                                          start living like an elderly
                                          person or a resident of a
                                          small mountain town. Those are
                                          people that still only use
                                          landline phones and snail
                                          mail. <br>
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                            On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at
                                            11:54 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer
                                            <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:patrikd@gmail.com"
                                                target="_blank">patrikd@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                                  <div>Also keep in mind
                                                    that actively trying
                                                    to circumvent NSA's
                                                    spying will likely
                                                    get you put on a
                                                    list of suspicious
                                                    individuals
                                                    requiring more
                                                    intrusive scrutiny.
                                                    Because we need to
                                                    protect society from
                                                    cryptoradicals like
                                                    you.<br>
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                                                  Feels like 1984 all
                                                  over again...<span><font
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                                                <span><font
                                                    color="#888888">Patrik<br>
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                                                      <div><br>
                                                        <br>
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                                                    <div
                                                      class="gmail_quote">On
                                                      Wed, Jun 12, 2013
                                                      at 11:10 AM,
                                                      Andrew <span
                                                        dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:andrew@roshambomedia.com"
                                                          target="_blank">andrew@roshambomedia.com</a>></span>
                                                      wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>this is
                                                          an awesome
                                                          list of great
                                                          software. I
                                                          also think
                                                          it's important
                                                          that people
                                                          understand
                                                          that privacy,
                                                          anonymity, and
                                                          securing
                                                          require more
                                                          than just
                                                          switching to
                                                          Ubuntu, using
                                                          Firefox,
                                                          etc... It
                                                          requires real
                                                          changes in
                                                          behavior, as
                                                          well as
                                                          technical
                                                          solutions. For
                                                          example, you
                                                          can use
                                                          encrypted
                                                          email all you
                                                          want, but if
                                                          the person you
                                                          are
                                                          communicating
                                                          with doesn't
                                                          also have good
                                                          security
                                                          practices they
                                                          can be
                                                          compromised
                                                          and all your
                                                          communications
                                                          can be made
                                                          available to
                                                          anyone with
                                                          access to
                                                          their
                                                          computer.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Also keep in
                                                          mind that
                                                          these
                                                          technical
                                                          solutions will
                                                          never be
                                                          enough. For
                                                          example, 
                                                          keyloggers are
                                                          easy to trick
                                                          someone in to
                                                          installing or
                                                          can even be
                                                          placed in to
                                                          "legitimate"
                                                          via automatic
                                                          updates
                                                          without the
                                                          user knowing.
                                                          At any moment
                                                          Apple,
                                                          Microsoft, and
                                                          Google could
                                                          switch on a
                                                          network of
                                                          spying
                                                          computers
                                                          unprecedented
                                                          in American
                                                          history, (are
                                                          you sure you
                                                          and everyone
                                                          you are
                                                          communicating
                                                          with are using
                                                          0% software
                                                          from these
                                                          companies?).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The point
                                                          is that this
                                                          is not a
                                                          technical
                                                          problem. And,
                                                          so far it's
                                                          still very
                                                          difficult for
                                                          the NSA to
                                                          gain human
                                                          intelligence,
                                                          so if you want
                                                          to share
                                                          secrets, the
                                                          best way to do
                                                          it is over
                                                          drinks at your
                                                          friends house
                                                          surrounded by
                                                          people you
                                                          trust.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>--Andrew<br>
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                                                          <div>On Wed,
                                                          Jun 12, 2013
                                                          at 10:46 AM,
                                                          Eddan Katz <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:eddan@clear.net" target="_blank">eddan@clear.net</a>></span>
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                                                          <div><span></span></div>
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                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite"><span>"Opt
                                                          out of PRISM,
                                                          the NSA’s
                                                          global data
                                                          surveillance
                                                          program. Stop
                                                          reporting your
                                                          online
                                                          activities to
                                                          the American
                                                          government
                                                          with these
                                                          free
                                                          alternatives
                                                          to proprietary
                                                          software."</span></blockquote>
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