<div dir="ltr">Seriously, give the guy a break. It's attitudes like Marc's that drive away people from the "true" hackerspaces. Live and let live: just because his space has a different organizational model than yours doesn't mean it's some sort of evil masterplan to steal all your members and get rich by squeezing money out of them. There are spaces in sf / oakland that charge $250 a month and all you get is a desk and an internet connection. There's room for a whole spectrum of spaces in the bay area. Mitch Altman's dream is a day where there are more hackerspaces than liquor stores.<div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Steve Berl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:steveberl@gmail.com" target="_blank">steveberl@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Seems like sort of a blend of Tech Liminal, Techshop, and a hacker space. Not clear why you think it's a bad thing. I don't see it claiming to be anything that it is not. <div><br></div><div>Steve<div><div class="h5">
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On Monday, July 1, 2013, Marc Juul wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:54 PM, J.C. <span dir="ltr"><<a>r33lmm@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Darren Overby <span dir="ltr"><<a>darren@rockitcolabs.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Excuse the interruption Noisebridge fans, </div><div><br></div><div>In the interest of possible cross-pollination, I wanted to let you know about a new place to hack - <a href="http://www.rockitcolabs.com/noisebridge-invite" target="_blank">RocSounds like a crap attempt at kIT CoLabs</a>. </div>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Co-working? yes<br></div><div><br>Makerspace? yah<br></div><div><br>Tech startups? check<br></div><div><br>$200 monthly dues? yep<br><br>For profit? nothing stated to the contrary. seems likely.<br>
</div><div><br>Hierarchical organizational structure? assumed guilty until proven innocent<br></div><div><br>Attempt to make their business venture more successful by luring in hackers from local non-profits? sounds like it<br>
<br></div><div>"People frequently ask me how I came to be such an unconventional thinker
and unusual serial entrepreneur. ... " -- Darren Overby<br><br></div><div>By being unusually modest? No? Oh, wait, is the answer: By co-opting existing open communities into for-profit organizations?<br></div><div>
<br>If this is actually a non-hierarchical non-profit, then color me embarrassed.<br><br>Someone please let me know that I'm wrong. Please.<br><br>-- <br></div><div>Marc<br></div></div></div></div>
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