<div dir="ltr">Hacker Scouts is gathering funding for a new bigger hackerspace / headquarters in Oakland. Possibly Sudo Room could get involved and share the new space with them?<div><br><div><a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/832476585/hacker-scouts-oakland-lab">http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/832476585/hacker-scouts-oakland-lab</a><br>
</div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Eddan Katz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eddan@clear.net" target="_blank">eddan@clear.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>True. Though there is approx. $25,000 in legal fees in preparation for the CA DPO. Cutting Edge Capital (Jenny Kassan) did the People's Community Market. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Not sure how the comparison will stack up, but it's problematic that the DPO involves getting the $25K upfront, in order to raise the DPO money.</div><div><br></div><div>Either way, it seems to me like an institutional membership structure might make it a lot more feasible (i.e., Bay Area Public School, Roshambo Media, Sound Room, Pan Theater, Pan Theatre, Community Democracy Project, Oakland Wiki, etc. etc.). <br>
<br><br>sent from <a href="http://eddan.com" target="_blank">eddan.com</a></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Sep 14, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Anthony Di Franco <<a href="mailto:di.franco@gmail.com" target="_blank">di.franco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">If it's a California direct public offering, it can be done as equity already. See people's community market in west Oakland.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 14, 2013 1:09 PM, "Eddan Katz" <<a href="mailto:eddan@clear.net" target="_blank">eddan@clear.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>or it could be structured as a co-op real estate deal.</div><div>or an equity crowd funded (starting 9/28) distribution of shares.</div><div><br></div><div>Sudo Room can remain what it is. Sudo Co-op, for example, can be the entity with title to the property.<br>
<br>sent from <a href="http://eddan.com" target="_blank">eddan.com</a></div><div><br>On Sep 14, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Andrew <<a href="mailto:andrew@roshambomedia.com" target="_blank">andrew@roshambomedia.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>We have to find out what the building is worth, then someone has to see how big of a loan we could get as a group (we'd need a tax structure). Once we find that out we can crowd source for the deposit and first months mortgage. <br>
<br>It's within the realm of possibility, but would require Sudo Room to become a land owner and a state/federally recognized entity (like an LLC) with people on the board having good credit. Correct me if I'm wrong here.<br>
<br></div>--Andrew<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Eddan Katz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eddan@clear.net" target="_blank">eddan@clear.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>+1!!!</div><div><br></div><div>Minus - '<span>it's probably too big to be crowdfunded'</span></div>
<div><br>sent from <a href="http://eddan.com" target="_blank">eddan.com</a></div><div><div><div><br>On Sep 13, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Julio Rios <<a href="mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com" target="_blank">julio.rios@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Not sure if this is possible, but just throwing it out there since there seems to be a general consensus that the location is ideal, but the management is the opposite:<br>
<br></div>Can sudoroom (or some conglomerate including sudoroom) buy George out? or convince someone/something friendly to sudoroom to buy him out?<br>
</div>I think it's probably too big to be crowdfunded, but does anyone know someone profusely wealthy able to take this on? or a group?<br><br></div>I am guessing there are already models for spaces owned by the groups that operate there, cooperatively maybe?<br>
<div><br></div><div>I'm not necessarily advocating this, but this space in Atlanta is pretty nice, even though it's been bought by developers for the purpose of fostering an art community that already existed there, and they have a farm:<br>
<a href="http://clatl.com/atlanta/goat-farm-gets-sold/Content?oid=1868024" target="_blank">http://clatl.com/atlanta/goat-farm-gets-sold/Content?oid=1868024</a><br><br></div><div>Not sure what the equivalent in Oakland would be.<br>
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<div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Andrew <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@roshambomedia.com" target="_blank">andrew@roshambomedia.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>Walking away may not be easy to do as he tends to corner people when they are alone in the space.</p><div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 13, 2013 11:47 AM, "Hol Gaskill" <<a href="mailto:hol@gaskill.com" target="_blank">hol@gaskill.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
reiterating the in-writing requirement is good. just walking away may or may not be so good - i have so far had the good fortune not to know the depths of these interactions.<br>
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The lease that Matt sent out a while ago clearly states that all requests and complaints must be in writing. So I would like to reiterate that if George approaches you just say, "please put that in writing so I can share it with the group, thanks" and walk away if you can.<br>
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