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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Guess its just as well. I moved to
Mountain View and noisebridge is too far away for me practically
to make it up there. If the SEM needs a new home I am more than
happy to take it. In the meantime I am actively looking over eBay
for one of my own and would still like to collaborate if I can get
such a unit (there in fact was an ISI SEM on eBay last week for
$100 but it was older and not in very good shape)<br>
<br>
John<br>
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On 09/17/2013 03:16 PM, miloh wrote:<br>
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<div>LOL no. No need to get sensational. (you're just
placing yourself in good company with instigators like
WR Hearst). Just because they don't know how or won't
learn how to use the SEM, Noisebridge is not a
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Anyways, since there are only 2 or 3 self founded hackerspaces
on Earth that I've heard of even having access to a SEM of
their own, I'll just take a step back to say it will take
longer for the use of these kind of tools to take hold and
find use in the hackerspace movement. There are probably a ton
of miniSEMS out there waiting in garages until cadres can take
on the responsibility of their care and use. Until then, I
won't stand by if I can prevent these tools from getting
damaged. <br>
<br>
I already identified the majority of the SEM parts and help is
appreciated, but please don't make a big thing of it. The
mini-SEM is intact in the front of Noisebridge by the welcome
desk (!), and there are boxes of equipment in the East end of
the space on the floor by the stairs leading up to the
overseer's closet.<br>
<br>
Dr X is ahead of his time, who knew?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at
3:05 PM, Jake <span dir="ltr"><<a
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">perhaps you
heard<br>
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noisebridge is no longer a hackerspace and is
emptying out the science room (where the SEM
was) to make room for a radio studio or dj booth
or something. ball pit.<br>
<br>
miloh will be moving the SEM to a safe location
but if you want to help make sure no pieces get
lost maybe you can help. there are tiny boxes
with filaments in them and an ultrasonic
cleaner, probably scattered around the trash
pile thats forming at nb now. they are doing a
dump run thursday. the SEM got moved out of its
safe place without a single email about it to
anyone that i know of.<br>
<br>
so help miloh find all the SEM pieces before its
too late!<br>
<br>
-jake<br>
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Chris Murphy wrote:<br>
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Hi guys,<br>
<br>
Instead of taking the Noisebridge SEM, I have
a great idea...<br>
<br>
Let's get another SEM! <br>
<br>
One of the problems with the Noisebridge SEM
is that the community of SEM experts is too
small. So let's enlarge that community<br>
by getting another. <br>
<br>
If you do get the Noisebridge SEM, NB will be
out of a significant resource and its repair
and operation are likely to fall on<br>
the same exact shoulders. You will also
encounter ALL of the same problems that NB has
encountered and will need to go to extreme<br>
effort to build infrastructure around the
microscope (which we haven't completed). <br>
<br>
I have a lead on another SEM that would be
free. They aren't as rare as you might think. <br>
<br>
In my previous e-mail, which may not have been
posted to the sudo room list yet (I'm not a
list member), I didn't understand that<br>
there was a plan afoot to take the NB SEM
(which technically does not belong to NB
anyway, it's on loan). I thought that someone<br>
named Dr. X was going to donate another SEM to
sudo room. I generally disapprove of
dismantling Noisebridge resources. <br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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On Jun 11, 2013, at 15:25, Ryan Bethencourt
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Great thanks Jake, we're working on the
space thing for CCL and hoping to have one in
the nearish term... it's kind<br>
of like the early days of Sudo Room when
we talked on and on about getting a space...
until we finally got one :)<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Jake <<a
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wrote:<br>
it is currently in a relatively safe
place, especially considering that moving it
is the most dangerous thing<br>
to it. So it should stay where it is
until a new place is chosen for it.<br>
<br>
Since Sudoroom doesn't have enough room
for it and CCL has NO room yet, moving it will
have to wait.<br>
<br>
However, i know of a pickup truck that
can be used to move it if and when the time
comes.<br>
<br>
-jake<br>
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt
wrote:<br>
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Thanks Jake, It looks like we may
have to rent a uhaul truck to move it as it
looks large?<br>
Sounds like Ben has a place for us
to store it and we have another Counter
Culture labs<br>
co-founder/member (Shanee) who
knows how to use it and said she could teach
us :)<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM,
Benjamin Lack <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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wrote:<br>
It looks like it would be
fine sitting in a garage for a few months, if
so, I have space.<br>
Ben<br>
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM,
Patrik D'haeseleer <<a
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That would be excellent!<br>
<br>
Here's the user manual with all
the specs:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<br>
It's a desktop machine, so doesn't
necessarily take up any more space than some
bio equipment.<br>
Wonder how easy it would be to DIY
a gold sputterer...<br>
<br>
Patrik<br>
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM,
Jake <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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wrote:<br>
I'm sure that Dr. X would be
very pleased if it went to Counter Culture
Labs. He just wants<br>
it to be understood and
appreciated, rather than sitting<br>
neglected. CCL should hurry
up and buy the church building before the
price goes up on it,<br>
and I can help transport it.<br>
<br>
It is basically an equipment
rack and a cart of accessories, so it doesn't
take up a ton of<br>
room. But it's good to be able to
set the microscope and<br>
vacuum pump on different
structures so that the vibration of the pump
doesn't shake the<br>
scope. Also, to take higher
resolution pictures it will be<br>
necessary to construct an
analog data importer but that will likely just
be a computer with a<br>
slightly modified sound card and
some software.<br>
<br>
keep in mind that to view
organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a
gold sputterer.<br>
<br>
-jake<br>
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan
Bethencourt wrote:<br>
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Hi Jake,<br>
I'd be very happy to
help transport the scanning electron
microscope and if<br>
it can't fit into Sudo
Room, I'd also love to float the idea of
potentially<br>
housing it at Counter
Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot)
when we<br>
eventually open up.
Any thoughts?<br>
<br>
How big is the SEM (I
know some of them can be huge which might
prohibit<br>
location)?<br>
<br>
All the best,<br>
Ryan<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Ryan<br>
<br>
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On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at
6:33 PM, Jake <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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sudoroom is
being offered a scanning electron microscope
(by Dr.<br>
X).<br>
<br>
it comes with
all the stuff and actually works, but it
requires<br>
a bit of
knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X
is not<br>
available to
train us how to operate it, however Chris
Murphy<br>
may be available
and knows how it works.<br>
<br>
It would take up
about 30 square feet of space including the<br>
place where the
operators sit or stand. It is not
computerized<br>
like the one at
Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine.<br>
Pictures can be
taken at high resolution by long-exposure
photo<br>
of the CRT on
the front of the machine, or we can build an<br>
analog data
importer to reconstruct images at much higher<br>
resolution if we
desire.<br>
<br>
The cash price
of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will<br>
provide the
vehicle and movement. The rest of the price
of the<br>
machine in blood
and sacrifice is in the time and energy to<br>
learn its
intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning
about<br>
vacuum pumps and
vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil<br>
contaminate your
vacuum and get all over your filament.<br>
<br>
<a
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<br>
ironically, one
of the reasons it doesn't work as well at<br>
noisebridge is
because the whole place shakes when the city<br>
buses ride by.
and sudoroom is apparently directly over the<br>
bart tunnel so i
wonder how different it will be.<br>
<br>
-jake<br>
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