this DAC shit is totally out of control. We have to start working on making the enormous problems it represents visible to everyone.<div><br></div><div>I'd like it we could fold activism & awareness around the DAC into the cryptoparty, or have a cryptoparty around brainstorming how to tackle this issue locally.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Solidarity,</div><div>david<span></span><br><br>On Sunday, October 13, 2013, GtwoG PublicOhOne wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Re. the police using Facebook and Google, and Stephen Spiker's
question "what happens when someone doesn't like me and has access
to all that information?": <br>
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Right now 41% of employers use Facebook to screen job applicants and
monitor employees. That creates an _enormous_ chilling effect on
speech. <br>
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And, credit agencies are also using Facebook to assign
creditworthiness-by-association. If your "friends" have bad credit,
your own credit rating goes down. That creates an _enormous_
chilling effect on freedom of association. <br>
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With all the anarchists, left-libertarians, and civil liberties
hawks onboard here, where's the outrage about those abuses? <br>
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Or have we become smug in our status as geeks, whose economics are
secure even if we wear the circle-A flag into the office and into
job interviews? Do we care about Joe Average Worker whose job may
be dangling by a thread, whose boss may be a diehard Fox Newz
enthusiast, and who might end up unemployed and out in the streets
for voicing an "unpopular" opinion online...? <br>
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Is that a paradigm example of why Marxists consider the
"intelligentsia" to be an unreliable class as far as solidarity with
workers is concerned? Are we better than that?, or not?<br>
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The primary difference between NSA and Google is that you can vote
for NSA's boss every four years, but Google has better marketing. <br>
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The root issue is _collection_. Data that aren't collected, can't
be abused. If you're on Facebook, if you use GMail or Google Voice,
or if you carry around a "smart" phone with a battery that can't be
removed, you're already subjected to a degree of surveillance that
NSA reserves for members of Al Qaeda. <br>
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If you don't like the Oakland Police getting access to the data, the
place to start is with the mega-corps that collect the data.
Complaining about the police using data that huge corporations
collect, without complaining about the mega-corps collecting the
data, is a self-contradiction. <br>
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Lastly, shot-spotters shouldn't be controversial, even among those
of us who support the personal rights interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment. A gunshot on a city street means one of two things: a
criminal has just shot a victim, or a criminal's would-be victim has
just shot their attacker in self-defense. Either of those things
merits getting the police and paramedics on the scene, pronto. <br>
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-G.<br>
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<p style="line-height:24px;font-size:1.2em;margin:0px 0px 1em">OAKLAND,
Calif. — Federal grants of $7 million awarded to this city
were meant largely <a title="About
the program." href="http://aapa.files.cms-plus.com/PDFs/FY2009PSGPGuidanceFINAL.pdf" style="color:rgb(102,102,153);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">to help thwart terror attacks</a> at its bustling
port. But instead, the money is going to a police
initiative that will collect and analyze reams of
surveillance data from around town — from
gunshot-detection sensors in the barrios of East Oakland
to license plate readers mounted on police cars patrolling
the city’s upscale hills.</p>
<p style="line-height:24px;font-size:1.2em;margin:0px 0px 1em">The new
system, scheduled to begin next summer, is the latest
example of how cities are compiling and processing large
amounts of information, known as big data, for routine law
enforcement. And the system underscores how technology has
enabled the tracking of people in many aspects of life.</p>
<p style="line-height:24px;font-size:1.2em;margin:0px 0px 1em">The
police can monitor a fire hose of social media posts to
look for evidence of criminal activities; transportation
agencies can track commuters’ toll payments when drivers
use an electronic pass; and the National Security Agency,
as news reports this summer revealed, scooped up telephone
records of millions of cellphone customers in the United
States.</p>
<p style="line-height:24px;font-size:1.2em;margin:0px 0px 1em">Like the
Oakland effort, other pushes to use new surveillance tools
in law enforcement are supported with federal dollars. The
New York Police Department, aided by federal financing,
has a big data system that links 3,000 surveillance
cameras with license plate readers, radiation sensors,
criminal databases and terror suspect lists. Police in
Massachusetts have used federal money to buy automated
license plate scanners. And police in Texas have bought a
drone with homeland security money, something that Alameda
County, which Oakland is part of, also tried but shelved
after public protest.</p>
<p style="line-height:24px;font-size:1.2em;margin:0px 0px 1em">Proponents
of the Oakland initiative, formally known as the <a title="About the program." href="http://oaklandwiki.org/Domain_Awareness_Center/_files/Port%20of%20Oakland%20DAC%20Report.pdf/_info/" style="color:rgb(102,102,153);text-decoration:none" target="_blank"></a></p>
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