You don't need to be a scientist to know about your own experience - that is what I am asking about. <div>Stats are useful, but no one should rely on them exclusively, and for a lot of things they are actively misleading. What's the point of knowing different kinds of people if you can't get anecdotal data and social theories from them? </div>
<div><br></div><div>I told you guys my experience - it's counter to the received wisdom on the relative safety of white men and women in high crime neighborhoods. That's why I think it's interesting. </div><div>
<br></div><div>Now other people, go. <br><br>On Tuesday, November 19, 2013, David Barthwell wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>
Thank you Rhodey - I appreciate the assist.<br><br></div><div>So I guess that this is the famous "call-out culture" of Sudoroom in effect? <br><br>Sonja, I'll try to find some time to reply to this entire thread in a bit (gainfully employed - none of that government money for me, thank you). <br>
<br>I AM a black person, but I am most unfortunately not a statistician nor a sociologist, nor have I conducted any studies - formal or informal - on the correlation between property crime and race. If you're genuinely curious about the data and not just making some ... point, there's always Google. Or DuckDuckGo. Whatever. </div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM, rhodey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rhodey@anhonesteffort.org');" target="_blank">rhodey@anhonesteffort.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Sonja,<br>
<br>
If your question was not answered the first time please consider that<br>
the people may not want to answer. No one should be pressured into<br>
participating in a conversation, I for one am removing myself from whats<br>
become of this. If anyone would still like to contact me about any of<br>
the content I have put forth within this thread I ask that you please do<br>
so in person or in an off-list email.<br>
<br>
--<br>
-- rhodey ˙ ͜ʟ˙<br>
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On 11/19/2013 01:03 PM, Sonja Trauss wrote:<br>
> I still want to know whether David has any info/ insights on the<br>
> relative vulnerability to mugging of white v black men. Or if anyone on<br>
> here has any notion for vulnerability based on race.<br>
><br>
> For me, I notice that walking around with a white man generates more<br>
> threatening comments than if I was walking alone. That and also what<br>
> reports from white men about being mugged and held up leads me to<br>
> believe I would be more vulnerable to being mugged if I was a boy.<br>
><br>
> Are there any black girls on the list that have a similar set of<br>
> anecdotal datas? or black men walking alone v. walking w white men?<br>
><br>
> I can't tell if there is no personal data, or what. Rhodey gave some. It<br>
> confirmed the other data I had. Any more either way?<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Chris Bee <<a href="javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'hotelcompany@gmail.com');" target="_blank">hotelcompany@gmail.com</a><br>
</div><div>> <mailto:<a href="javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'hotelcompany@gmail.com');" target="_blank">hotelcompany@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I don't mind discussing this topic as long as it's constructive and<br>
> keeps the finger pointing to a minimum.<br>
><br>
> Unfortunately there's plenty of shitty people out there...or as my<br>
> mom used to say, "asshole is a rainbow word." Honest and frank<br>
> discussion about assholes is not a bad thing...categorizing or<br>
> generalizing those assholes based on appearance or other factors is<br>
> iffy and something I try to avoid.<br>
><br>
> -chrisbee<br>
><br>
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