<div dir="ltr">Marina, thanks for that link. A technical question -- is there a significant difference in the purpose of the following pages?<div><br></div><div><a href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Potential_spaces">https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Potential_spaces</a></div>
<div><a href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Sudo_room/open_a_space#Listings_Spreadsheet">https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Sudo_room/open_a_space#Listings_Spreadsheet</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>If not -- any objections if I merge?</div>
<div>Pete</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Marina Kukso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marina.kukso@gmail.com" target="_blank">marina.kukso@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>hi all,<br><br>as far as i can tell, the "state of gentrification of a neighborhood" (if it's even possible for that to mean anything) isn't currently one of our criteria when considering a new space: <a href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Sudo_room/open_a_space" target="_blank">https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Sudo_room/open_a_space</a><br>
<br></div>gentrification is super important, but i'm not sure why this discussion is relevant to the list. would folks who are interested in discussing this further please consider taking it off-list? if you are looking for a constructive way to improve the level of this kind of discussion, the <a href="http://oaklandwiki.org/gentrification" target="_blank">"gentrification</a>" & "<a href="http://oaklandwiki.org/What_should_we_do_about_gentrification%3F" target="_blank">what should we do about gentrification</a>" entries on oakland wiki need lots of work.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">- marina<br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Pete Forsyth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peteforsyth@gmail.com" target="_blank">peteforsyth@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Max B <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maxb.personal@gmail.com" target="_blank">maxb.personal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Here's an amazing article with a ton of history:<br>
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<a href="http://www.bayofrage.com/from-the-bay/oakland-is-for-burning-beyond-a-critique-of-gentrification/" target="_blank">http://www.bayofrage.com/from-the-bay/oakland-is-for-burning-beyond-a-critique-of-gentrification/</a><br>
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I would highly recommend anyone who thinks they have useful things to<br>
say on the mailing list to read ALL of it and reconsider their remarks......</blockquote><div><br></div></div>I bit, but I didn't like the taste. It's a long article, so let me quote the concluding paragraph here:<div>
<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><span style="color:rgb(29,29,27);font-family:Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:24.46875px">"By discovering together a practice that seeks to 1) identify and attack development, 2) subvert and destroy the infrastructure of the city, and 3) destroy whiteness as an identity and a set of practices, we can forge a response to gentrification that hinges not on inactivity out of guilt, but instead from action motivated by our insurgent spirit."</span></blockquote>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>The anonymous author then goes on to enumerate an extensive list of "enemies," which are mainly business associations. In other words there's a pretty strong agenda driving this article, which might or might not align with various readers' visions of progress. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">The article does offer some worthwhile historical nuggets, and in general I agree with the notion the author advances, that class or socioeconomic standing can be more useful anchoring concepts than race when considering the evolution of a city.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I am surprised that the Black Guerrilla Family doesn't get a mention among the radical groups with significant history here.<br><br></div><div>Max -- what do you see in this article that could inform the choice of a new location for Sudo Room?</div>
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<div><br></div><div>Pete</div><div><br></div></font></span></div></div></div>
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