<div dir="ltr">Personally, I don't think the discussion should be about whether or not these schools have merrit. What about the "California Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education" ( <a href="http://www.bppe.ca.gov/">http://www.bppe.ca.gov/</a> ) which has existed for less than 4 years now. Does it really have merrit? What are the regulations, and is this really worth having another california berucracy that makes it even harded to open up bussiness here?<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">--Andrew<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Romy Ilano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:romy@snowyla.com" target="_blank">romy@snowyla.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Well to play devil's advocate:</div><div><br></div><div>creative, qusetioning students with computer science skills are valued by the industrialists nowadays. They actually seek out people who are a little rebellious.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I read that some of the more innovative Chinese high schools are ditching standardized tests, encuraging more creative education, as they see it as their only ticket to becoming an economy on the high end of the value chain (more creative, more design-focused)</div>
<div><br></div><div>What if the evil capitalists support a more intelliectual, creative education free of rote education?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>>></div>
<div><br></div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Message: 11</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:23:34 -0800</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">From: Anthony Di Franco <</span><a href="mailto:di.franco@gmail.com" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target="_blank">di.franco@gmail.com</a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">></span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] "learn to code" events subject to full-WTF</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> scale crackdown...any ideas?</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Message-ID:</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> <</span><a href="mailto:CAOJkv1pDK2k_oPcbssg42MHZOkSzfqANQPxfoTNmx7wWF4wLSw@mail.gmail.com" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target="_blank">CAOJkv1pDK2k_oPcbssg42MHZOkSzfqANQPxfoTNmx7wWF4wLSw@mail.gmail.com</a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">></span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Outside of the narrow regulatory question, this reminds me of another</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">relating to the vocationalization of programming to supply commoditized</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">labor to large corporations, which is something I am uneasy around and</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">which I think reflects a shifting power balance that deserves to be</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">opposed. Here is a line of criticism that I think is right on, running from</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Seymour Papert to Bret Victor to</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
</div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">this<</span><a href="http://programmingisterrible.com/post/73056840109/paperts-dreams-and-our-grim-meathook-reality" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target="_blank">http://programmingisterrible.com/post/73056840109/paperts-dreams-and-our-grim-meathook-reality</a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">></span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">:</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">*"In ?Meanwhile, at </span><a href="http://code.org/" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target="_blank">code.org</a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> <</span><a href="http://worrydream.com/MeanwhileAtCodeOrg/" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target="_blank">http://worrydream.com/MeanwhileAtCodeOrg/</a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">>?,</span><div class="im">
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Bret juxtaposes the ideals of Seymour Papert and the dreams of</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">entrepreneurs and venture capitalists. Papert wanted to use programming as</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">a way to let children explore powerful ideas and let their imagination run</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">wild. The agenda of the political, wealthy, and powerful is to build a new</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">generation of worker bees to fuel their startups. One sees code as a</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"></div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">liberation, and the other as a vocation..."*</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
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