<div dir="ltr">And btw matt / all - nope, no one has to do any legwork unless they want to. I will/am/have been doing so, so I'll continue make that happen. Just need the space and (y)our considered blessing. Tx!</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:33 AM, David Keenan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dkeenan44@gmail.com" target="_blank">dkeenan44@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Matt, I will bring up your point at the next organizing meeting for sure. Thank you for being willing to sponsor.</div>
<div><br></div>Yardena - your point is exceedingly well taken, as I sit here from my gmail account, writing about how if want to do the event, we should post it on facebook...sigh. <div>
<br></div><div>To my discredit, I really don't have an answer for this one except that in my opinion, email as a medium is itself an inherently broken means of secure communication, a lotta people on sudo have google accounts, and yeah sudo posts regularly to facebook, which is why I asked.. Sometimes you have to reach out to people in an archaic medium they already grok - like on a listserv, or fb - in order to tell them that is maybe not The Best Way. <br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>Personally, once I gave up on email qua email as being meaningfully secure, I sort of stopped caring who my provider was. Or teaching people how to encrypt their message content, only to have them never get that doesn't secure their attachments or the "metadata" or render messages readable from the web from any device anymore or or or (I kind of hate the term metadata btw, as in mass culture 'metadata' has seemingly come to infer something other than 'our' data, and as if metadata is not also our data, just like our non-meta data). </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">But yes for sure, if we care about 'privacy', we DO need to be off fb (and onto building up diaspora or something similar), and, we need to be off email. And use some darkmail, or otr or a private forum or something else. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I feel like for us to all get off fb, we need a real alternative to go to, and a campaign. Same with email. But before we build that up.. using fb/email or not using it, it seems like being caught between a rock and a hard place when trying to promote an event but not feed the biting hand, you know?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">As this is precisely the position I feel like the system of capital as a whole places us in, far beyond mark zuckerberg and google and 'big data': We can't help but feed the hand that bites us. We 'need' to be bitten, so our traumatized, bitten selves can feed somebody or something else..often while simultaneously handing a bite to somebody else less powerful, as in in the case of gentrification. If that partially re-inverted idiom still makes any sense..which um, no, looks like it doesn't. Well. Sorry, tired. But I totally get you.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Yeah. Tired.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">David</div></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:12 AM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:g2g-public01@att.net" target="_blank">g2g-public01@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Re. "what does the rest of sudo think?"<br>
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Microphones & cameras on shot-spotters? What about the
software-controlled mics & cameras on smartphones, that people
carry into indoor places where the DAC cameras and mics can't go?
If it doesn't have a physical OFF switch or a removable battery,
it's always ON.<br>
<br>
NSA snooping your metadata? What about Google Mail and Google Voice
scraping the full content of both sides of every email &
conversation for everything down to the level of "sentiment
analysis" which is a euphemism for spying on your emotions?
"Targeted advertising" is a distraction; Big Data is the real
product.<br>
<br>
DAC data center creepy? What about Facebook creepy, and Sudo having
a Facebook page, even as Mark Zuckerberg spends $16 million to buy
up every house on his block, so his neighbors can't do unto him that
which he does unto others...? <br>
<br>
Big Power is inherently corrupt wherever it resides. Big Data is
Big Power. Even if it has good marketing, cute logos, total
convenience, free apps, free games, and endless entertainment.<br>
<br>
Corporate power says "don't bite the hand that feeds you."<br>
<br>
Resistance says "don't feed the hand that bites you."<br>
<br>
-G.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Jeremy - Of course! And we should.
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<div>what does t<span></span>he rest of sudo think?<br>
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On Sunday, February 2, 2014, Jeremy Entwistle <<a href="mailto:jwentwistle@cryptolab.net" target="_blank">jwentwistle@cryptolab.net</a>>
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that's an amazing idea. How to do you feel about the mesh
and our cryptoparty (2/23) being mentioned? As both are very
practical methods of promoting secure and decentralized
communications.<br>
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Hey all,<br>
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The Bay Area Public School has scheduled a surveillance
awareness<br>
event on Friday 2/21 7-9pm in the common room entitled
Spied Upon:<br>
Surveillance & Resistance. I was hoping we (sudo)
could co-host this<br>
event with BAPS, because I think it'd be really cool if we
start doing<br>
more events together. BAPS can do most all of the setup,
but it'd be<br>
great if Sudo can do outreach too, since I think it'd be
in the<br>
interest of both communities.<br>
<br>
What do you think?<br>
<br>
There's a twofold focus on informants and technological
surveillance.<br>
Here's the Sudo Room calendar EVENT LINK [1]. Details are
below -<br>
<br>
SPIED UPON: SURVEILLANCE AND RESISTANCE<br>
Join us Friday February 21st 7-9 pm at the Bay Area Public
School [2]<br>
& Sudo Room<br>
2141 Broadway (enter on 22nd), Oakland - three blocks
from 19th St.<br>
Bart!<br>
<br>
Between the ever-present fear of informants to the
profusion of<br>
metadata collection and the construction of the Domain
Awareness<br>
Center [3] (DAC) in Oakland, the growing problem of
surveillance has<br>
made it into the mainstream dialog, but the people and
communities<br>
most affected are sometimes being left out of the
conversation.<br>
<br>
Join us for an evening of ideas, discussion and questions
about<br>
solidarity in the face of this intimidation. How do we
support one<br>
another and our movements when being targeted by police,
surveillance<br>
and informants? What are the legal, community and
political responses<br>
that can best keep the larger "us" safe and allow our
movements to<br>
flourish?<br>
<br>
- SPEAKERS -<br>
JASON KIRKPATRICK, filmmaker and activist, will show clips
of and<br>
discuss his upcoming film, _SPIED UPON_ [4]. Interviewing
activists<br>
across the world and telling his own personal story, Jason
will take<br>
us on a journey into one of Europe's biggest political
surveillance<br>
scandals, documenting growing movements of resistance to
surveillance<br>
along the way.<br>
<br>
ZAHRA BILLOO, Civil rights attorney and Executive Director
at the Bay<br>
Area COUNCIL ON AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS [5] (CAIR),
speaks on the<br>
use of informants in a post-9/11 context, their impact,
the<br>
community's resistance and lessons learned.<br>
<br>
RICHARD BROWN, Black Panther and member of the SF8 [6],
will share his<br>
history with undercover police and surveillance, imparting
the 'long<br>
view' of solidarity learned from a lifetime of activism.<br>
<br>
- PANEL DISCUSSION -<br>
Q & A with the speakers will follow in conversation
with<br>
representatives from:<br>
BAY AREA ANTI-REPRESSION COMMITTEE [7]<br>
BAY AREA COALITION TO STOP POLITICAL REPRESSION [8] (at
AROC)<br>
LEGAL WORKERS OF THE NATIONAL LAWYERS GUILD [9] (NLG)<br>
OAKLAND PRIVACY WORKING GROUP [10] (OPWG / anti-DAC)<br>
<br>
All donations gratefully received will go to the Bay Area<br>
Anti-Repression Committee and the Legal Workers at the Bay
Area<br>
chapter of the NLG - two groups long supporting the Bay
Area radical<br>
community with legal and educational assistance. Thank
you!<br>
<br>
Links:<br>
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[1] <a href="https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/spied-upon-bay-area-premiere-baps/" target="_blank">https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/spied-upon-bay-area-premiere-baps/</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://thepublicschool.org/node/36455" target="_blank">http://thepublicschool.org/node/36455</a><br>
[3] <a href="http://oaklandwiki.org/Domain_Awareness_Center" target="_blank">http://oaklandwiki.org/Domain_Awareness_Center</a><br>
[4] <a href="http://spiedupon.com/" target="_blank">http://spiedupon.com/</a><br>
[5] <a href="http://www.cair.com/" target="_blank">http://www.cair.com/</a><br>
[6] <a href="http://www.freethesf8.org/who.html" target="_blank">http://www.freethesf8.org/who.html</a><br>
[7] <a href="https://oaklandantirepression.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">https://oaklandantirepression.wordpress.com/</a><br>
[8]<br>
<a href="http://araborganizing.org/campaigns-our-work/coalition-to-stop-political-repression/" target="_blank">http://araborganizing.org/campaigns-our-work/coalition-to-stop-political-repression/</a><br>
[9] <a href="http://www.nlgsf.org/national-lawyers-guild-mission-statement" target="_blank">http://www.nlgsf.org/national-lawyers-guild-mission-statement</a><br>
[10] <a href="https://oaklandprivacy.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">https://oaklandprivacy.wordpress.com/</a><br>
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