<div dir="ltr">Tossing my hat in! Been wanting to start men's feminist circle myself. I wonder if we can make this a skype call in or something. <3 Also, just read this great little MVC essay which makes me think about hackerspace interactions a lot <a href="http://modelviewculture.com/pieces/ceo-archetypes-7-joan-of-arc">http://modelviewculture.com/pieces/ceo-archetypes-7-joan-of-arc</a><br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Matthew Senate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattsenate@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Thanks Max for filling out your availability! Other interested parties, please do so here: <a href="http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf" target="_blank">http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf</a><br>
<br></div>Thanks Jenny for the cc, (Hi Tom), and that sounds like a great first agenda item for this little cluster, easily done on the sudo room wiki or Noisebridge wiki, or both.<br>
<br></div>// Matt<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Jenny Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunabananas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Something that might be fruitful is creating a list of resources and readings that are more easily digestible by geek men in particular, and of course humans in general. I'm cc'ing Tom from Noisebridge, who's been organizing a feminist book group for men at Noisebridge over the past couple of months.<br>
<br></div>-totally unaffiliated ally of this proposal :)<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Jenny<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattsenate@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">sorry, not "weekly" I don't know how frequently such a group should meet!<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattsenate@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Max, this is great:<div><br><br>"Be radical sudo men. Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy."<br>
<br></div>But let's also meet and talk, I think it will be fruitful. Please share your availability on this calendar, and we'll start a little weekly meeting group. I favor Mondays in case folks have similar interests:<br>
<br><a href="http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf" target="_blank">http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf</a><br><br>// Matt<div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Max Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:isalix@gmail.com" target="_blank">isalix@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>As I see it - or perhaps I am wanting to see it this way - this Men's group's purpose would be to combat mindlessly performing inculcated patriarchal motions. And in the process of de-conditioning yourself as a "man", becoming a convincing, subtle and non-naggy argument for other men to do the same. Slowly doing what we can do restore a gender equitable society, from our side (while knowing that we can't do it ourselves, that's the sort of thinking that got us here in the first place).<br>
<br></div><div>So a thousand yeses to all of the above. But how do we do it? In person meetings? Too self selecting. Online? Not visible enough. Making a charter? Toothless. Doing volunteer work? Pointless doting.<br></div>
<div><br></div><div>Here's my suggestion, and I'm open to more. Be radical sudo men.<br></div><div>Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy.<br></div><div>notconfusing<br></div></div><div><div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ryan.bethencourt@gmail.com" target="_blank">ryan.bethencourt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Great idea and I'm in if we can keep the time commitment relatively light</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Feb 19, 2014 9:12 PM, "Matthew Senate" <<a href="mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattsenate@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr"><div>Hey all,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Positive responses at the weekly meeting. I started mulling it over more and would like to add:</div><div><br></div><div>I'm basically reaching out for help to men who would like to actively contribute to improving the performance of gender dynamics and to provide space for healing and support in sudo room. Please consider contributing, no experts required, just an open mind.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Max,</div><div><br></div><div>I don't have any particular resources in mind at the moment, want to be a bit open-ended, see what makes sense, then do some research and document along the way.</div>
<div><br></div><div>// Matt</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Max B <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maxb.personal@gmail.com" target="_blank">maxb.personal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>I think its a great idea! <br>
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Would you mind linking to some resources that have explanations of what you're thinking about more specifically? I think people may have very different ideas of what a men's group might do. I can do some looking around later if need be.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On February 19, 2014 6:48:50 PM PST, Matthew Senate <<a href="mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattsenate@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">Hey all,<div><br></div><div>I wanted to reach out for some feedback. Seeking folks who would want to facilitate or participate in a men's group. </div><div><br></div><div>I've previously participated in small groups like this and found them beneficial for various reasons. I would like to see if folks have had similar or different experiences.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The way I'm thinking about this would culminate in something like a regular meeting for men in the sudo room community to discuss relevant issues including those of identity, oppression, privilege, patriarchy, gender, sexuality, stereotypes, safe space, and mutual support.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This may not be the best or even a viable path to approach these topics, but I wanted to throw it out there to see if there is any interest.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,<br>Matt</div></div>
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