<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><i>"IE, as measured by pixels, the W<>E dimension was smaller by ~5%, and the N<>S dimension smaller by ~2%" </i></span><div>
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Oops - reverse these dimensions, its the N<>S that I think was smaller by ~5%, and the E<>W dimension smaller by ~2%, compared to the listed dimensions for that room. </span></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">(Again someone might want to check my math, I dont have time for anything other than a spot check at just this moment :)</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Best,</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">David<br></font><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:44 PM, David Keenan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dkeenan44@gmail.com" target="_blank">dkeenan44@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I really, really love that we are all working through this together! I cannot thank you enough. Matt and Patrik especially!<div>
<br></div><div>I will work up a discrete $/sqft/group spreadsheet and hopefully augmented floorplan later when I have time. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I've seen y'alls questions and thoughts and awesome input and have not responded back yet solely due to cognitive bandwidth constraints (IRL-imposed DoS and physical I/O saturation.)</div><div>
<br></div><div>I'll also answer as many of the other questions I can, and work up the formal proposal we need as well as as much of the other paperwork. </div><div><br></div><div>Just to let everyone know we started with what every group can afford and around how much space is needed and when, rather than what each part of the space is worth on its own. Both are valid and imbricated metrics -- just a different starting place. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Also in terms of relative rents being paid per sq.ft of dedicated space, I suspect we will find that CCL and Sudo are probably paying less rent rent per sq.ft than everyone else, except for FNB. BAPS is probably paying the most. </div>
<div><br></div><div>There are other metrics too to consider which is how often the space is used. </div><div><br></div><div>IE ONL is paying $500/mo and they only put on a few shows (and probably a couple rehearsals) a month. Other groups expressing interest (but not yet in the collective) have similar needs for temporary space - ie a yoga collective possibly, etc.</div>
<div><br></div><div>FYI Patrik, really appreciate all your work going over the $/sq.ft on the floor plan. I love your system for measuring and checked it against the listed (numeric) dimensions printed in the floor plan. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Measuring the interior pixel lines in your 12ppi drawing of the bocce ball court room though in GIMP, I found that the bocce ball court room as measured by pixels (816px x 515px) was smaller than was listed the floor plan (I am heavily sleep deprived, so y'all correct me if I'm off.) </div>
<div><br></div><div>IE, as measured by pixels, the W<>E dimension was smaller by ~5%, and the N<>S dimension smaller by ~2%, leading to a ~7% discrepancy in this room, or ~208' smaller. IE, pixels measure 2918 sq.ft, listed measures 3127 sq.ft.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Not sure which is more accurate, but I'm wagering the printed dimensions are probably the more reliable (unless someone can think otherwise?)</div><div><br></div><div>I noticed in your xls, you used the listed rather than pixel-measured dimensions for the bocce ball court room. But you may want to increase your estimation of the raised platform area by 7%, and subtract that by 3127 to come up with the full dimensions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Love -</div><div>David</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:patrikd@gmail.com" target="_blank">patrikd@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div>On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Marina Kukso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marina.kukso@gmail.com" target="_blank">marina.kukso@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>does the $1.20/sqft price work out for what every other group has pledged and the space they're expecting?<br>
</div></blockquote><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">Note that the $1.20/sqft I came up with is simply working backwards from the $2000 someone stated CCL would be willing to pay in rent, and the size of the Bocce court. I would not expect that to match the numbers that any of the other groups have thrown out there, other than by complete serendipity.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">If we come up with a more rational price list, I would expect spaces in the basement to have a lower $/sqft than the rest, and especially attractive areas such as the corner bedroom space above the bar, or the owner's apartment (didn't get to see that one) perhaps a bit more. There should definitely be some sort of premium for windows vs no windows.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">In addition, we'll need to work out something for groups that do not want dedicated space. There can be different rates there too, based on how frequently they expect to use how much of the shared space, or with how many people. Not so we can police how the shared space is being used, but to have at least some fair way of subdividing that big $12K rent check we'll all need to pay every month.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Perhaps we can start by calculating how much dedicated space we are likely to have, and what fraction of the $12K rent should come from groups using dedicated space vs from their use of the shared space. That also becomes a policy decision: we can encourage or discourage the use of shared vs dedicated space by adjusting our fee structure.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_quote">Patrik<br></div></font></span></div></div>
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