<div dir="ltr"><div>Racism plays a fundamental role in the gentrification process, but I think in the opposite way you are thinking of. The 1st comment on the article above puts it nicely: todays whites are less racist, they are more willing/ think it's normal to live around black people or other ppl of color. </div>

<div>One of the many factors that depresses and as been depressing property values in black neighborhoods is racism. Black neighborhoods are perceived by both whites and blacks as "worse" than white neighborhoods with similar income levels and similar crime rates. As people get less racist, their perceptions of working class black neighborhoods improve. Property values can rise, people can start to feel like opening a business is a good idea etc. </div>

<div>Let's remember how the black ghettos in American cities were created in the first place: blacks moved into working class white neighborhoods in the 40s, 50s, 60s. The racist whites on the one hand wanted to get away from their new neighbors, and on the other hand had access to easy credit to buy brand new houses in the suburbs. So they fled. The sudden mass sell offs tanked property values, leaving the remaining black homeowners owners of newly depreciated assets.  </div>

<div>If we could go back in time, and be magicians, would we say, "hey whites, don't be racist and leave! Hey government, don't build a bunch of sprawl!" We would prevent the creation of the ghettos we now have: neighborhoods characterized by LACK of diversity, under-maintained buildings and a lack of businesses. Instead we would have neighborhoods with many races, many business, no abandoned houses, and houses well maintained because property values are steady.</div>

<div><br></div><div>That is what a neighborhood looks like in the absence of racism, and that is what neighborhoods formerly decimated by racism are starting to look like, now that we're a few generations beyond Jim Crow. Ironically, progressives are somehow heartbroken by these results of the decline of racism, instead of seeing a long awaited correction, it looks like a new injustice. </div>

<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Sam Tepper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sam.tepper@gmail.com" target="_blank">sam.tepper@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

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    Thanks for the link, Ryan.  I don't think people doubt that
    gentrification has its upsides - that's why it's so sought after for
    so many people - but there are two main downsides, I'd say, that are
    against the values we generally try to hold at Sudo Room.<br>
    <br>
    1.  Gentrification and its benefits target white middle-class
    families.  Even if many or most original residents who stay are
    financially better off, those who are left are far less diverse, and
    racism plays a fundamental role in the gentrification process.<br>
    <br>
    2.  Gentrified neighborhoods are generally home to fewer artists,
    immigrants, and even aspiring hackers because these people can
    frequently be poor to the point of destitution, even when their
    skill level is high.<br>
    <br>
    We do need to address the positives in order to have a dialog, to
    educate and address the problems behind most gentrification efforts,
    and try to increase financial health and stability in more positive,
    socially responsible ways.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
    <br>
    -Sam</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <div>On 05/11/2014 02:38 PM, Ryan
      Bethencourt wrote:<br>
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      I'm intrigued by this discussion, what's seemed odd to me for a
      while is that the conversation seems to be very one sided, i.e.
      all gentrification is bad, yet what about if it isn't? What if a
      rising tide lifts all boats?<br>
      <br>
      I came across an article a while back that was published on NPR
      (not known for being biased one way or the other) which discussed
      the data which actually tended to support the positive aspects of
      gentrification for residents of poorer neighborhoods. It's worth a
      read:<br>
      <br>
      <span>
        
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<small><small>"We're
              finding that the financial health of original residents in
              gentrifying neighborhoods seems to be increasing, as
              compared to original residents in nongentrifying,
              low-priced neighborhoods," says Daniel Hartley, a research
              economist with the bank."<br>
              <a href="http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264528139/long-a-dirty-word-gentrification-may-be-losing-its-stigma" target="_blank">http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264528139/long-a-dirty-word-gentrification-may-be-losing-its-stigma</a><br>


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        I would also make the argument that spaces like Sudo Room,
        Public Schools, LOL space, Counter Culture labs and etc actually
        make a net positive impact for the entire community and yet do
        have a gentrifying effect. </span>We have much work yet to do
      but communal spaces, open education and the maker movement have
      the potential to empower many communities and I say that as
      someone that hopes to do more to help lift others up, I think most
      of us are of the same mindset?<br>
      <br>
      Upwards and Onwards!<br>
      Ryan<br>
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              <a style="color:rgb(115,127,146)!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none!important" href="mailto:sonja.trauss@gmail.com" target="_blank">Sonja Trauss</a></div>
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              <font color="#9fa2a5"><span style="padding-left:6px">May
                  11, 2014 at 10:43 AM</span></font></div>
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        <div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);margin-right:24px;margin-left:24px">Quick point - you
          guys know that it was the housing market crash (sudden
          DECREASE in home values) that set off waves of foreclosures,
          right?
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>In other words, suppose you're in one of these loans.
            You realized what is about to happen to you ("FUCK! I can't
            afford the mortgage after reset!) let's look at two
            scenereos: </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Scenereo one: the value of your house has increased since
            you purchased it two years ago. The house is worth more than
            you owe on it, and there are many buyers interested in
            buying homes like yours in your area. </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Scenereo two: the value of your home has decreased since
            you purchased it two years ago. The house is worth less than
            you owe on it, and there are very few people interested in
            buying homes like yours in your area. </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Which scenero is better for you? What do you do in each
            scenereo? </div>
          <div><br>
            <br>
            On Sunday, May 11, 2014, Autonomous <<a href="mailto:autonomous666@gmail.com" target="_blank">autonomous666@gmail.com</a>>

            wrote:<br>
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              <font color="#9fa2a5"><span style="padding-left:6px">May
                  11, 2014 at 9:56 AM</span></font></div>
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            <div>><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px">Oakland
                gentrifica</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px">tion
                is very well planned & executed</span></div>
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              <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px"><br>
              </span></div>
            <div>Indeed. It is particularly reprehensible that specific
              neighborhoods in Oakland were targeted for predatory loans
              and fraudulent foreclosures. The attached image shows
              foreclosures in Oakland represented by small dots which is
              overlaid onto demographic data showing non-white
              neighborhoods in red and white neighborhoods in blue. See
              a pattern here? This is a form of economic warfare
              targeted against people of color who have lost a massive
              amount of wealth while investors have moved in to profit
              from the resulting increase in real estate values.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>The scam involves a loan with very low interest for a
              period of two years followed by a dramatic increase in
              interest. When people ask for a loan modification, they
              are told they need to miss a payment in order to qualify -
              it's in the servicing contract. Then, upon missing one
              payment, the bank refuses to accept any more payments by
              giving the run-around and the home is subsequently
              foreclosed upon. If that wasn't enough, people are
              forcibly removed from their homes by illegal eviction
              proceedings. Typically the unfortunate former homeowner
              only learns about the eviction when the police show up to
              kick them out on the street along with all their
              possessions. This is because they aren't served properly
              and have no idea a court action even existed. This pattern
              was repeated over and over in Oakland, as you can see in
              the attached image.</div>
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              </span><img name="145ed5bca12fdfdf_image.png" width="525" height="263" alt="Inline image 2"></div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:29 PM,
                <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:batkid@gmx.com" target="_blank">batkid@gmx.com</a>></span>
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                  Don't worry, Oakland won't become the East Hamptons
                  anytime soon<br>
                  <br>
                  <a href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25737160/oakland-man-shot-driving-truck-near-courthouse" target="_blank">http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25737160/oakland-man-shot-driving-truck-near-courthouse</a><br>


                  <a href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25732368/jurors-convict-man-murdering-two-west-oakland-neighborhood" target="_blank">http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25732368/jurors-convict-man-murdering-two-west-oakland-neighborhood</a><br>


                  <a href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25731273/oakland-man-dies-from-injuries-from-downtown-fight" target="_blank">http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25731273/oakland-man-dies-from-injuries-from-downtown-fight</a></blockquote>


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                <div>Oh good - I was getting worried about having too
                  many museum shows and cat video festivals in the
                  neighborhood...</div>
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                <div>Patrik </div>
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                    Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2014 at 21:30:39<br>
                    From: "Romy Snowyla" <<a href="mailto:romy@snowyla.com" target="_blank">romy@snowyla.com</a>><br>
                    To: "Sudo Room Discussion List" <<a href="mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org" target="_blank">sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org</a>><br>
                    Subject: [sudo-discuss] Oakland gentrification is
                    very well planned & executed<br>
                    The museum shows, the cat festival.. I guess we are
                    all part of the master plan : P<br>
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              <font color="#9fa2a5"><span style="padding-left:6px">May
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          <div>Don't worry, Oakland won't become the East Hamptons
            anytime soon<br>
            <br>
            <a href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25737160/oakland-man-shot-driving-truck-near-courthouse" target="_blank">http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25737160/oakland-man-shot-driving-truck-near-courthouse</a><br>


            <a href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25732368/jurors-convict-man-murdering-two-west-oakland-neighborhood" target="_blank">http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25732368/jurors-convict-man-murdering-two-west-oakland-neighborhood</a><br>


            <a href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25731273/oakland-man-dies-from-injuries-from-downtown-fight" target="_blank">http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25731273/oakland-man-dies-from-injuries-from-downtown-fight</a><br>


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            planned & executed<br>
            The museum shows, the cat festival.. I guess we are all part
            of the master plan : P<br>
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