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</head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Marc I know you have a
belief in moving technology that helps people and increases access for
all and act on it, which I fully support and partner with you on where I
can. I believe in putting people first too but I'm not against the
profit motive, especially if it's driven by a mission to do broader
good.<br>
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I don't however agree with your view on google or engineers that work
for google. I've met some really great people who work at google and are
very giving of their time and resources to help their local communities
and I'm sure there are some who are part of the Sudo community who do
likewise. I think it does us no good to speak in exclusionary terms of
any group of people, I think it's okay to criticize an individual for
their actions if they're not being excellent to people or animals but
whenever we clump people into groups we risk doing exactly what we're
against, which is being exclusionary.<br>
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I know you're not exclusionary, I just wanted to make sure there's a
clear voice in the discussion that welcomes all people, Google engineer
or not, to Sudo room to come and help us make the community and world
better through technology.<br>
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Be excellent to each other (I like that line) :)<br>
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Ryan<br>
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engineers are being vilified and yet I think it's a failure of
governmental institutions to develop adequate policies to ensure a full
range of housing and services are available for those who need it most
and not engineers who are just looking for a decent place to live at a
reasonable price.</div>
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<div>Google engineers are responsible
for their own actions and allegiances, regardless of failures of
governmental institutions. It matters how you spend your time in this
world and which organizations and projects you spend your time
supporting, and if you spend your time supporting huge top-down
for-profit corporations with questionable ethics while receiving major
personal benefits, then I'm going to assume that you've prioritized
personal gain over collaboration for the benefit of the local and global
community, and I'm going to judge you for that. If you then contribute
to actions that push out the less fortunate from their homes, well then
fuck you. Google engineers can read the news just like everybody else
and know what their selfish choice to live in SF is doing to others. Yes
its true that the government should not be allowing this to happen, but
that does not free anyone from their personal responsibility to be
excellent to others. Just because something is legal does not mean it is
right and the more power a person has, the more responsibility they
should display in how they wield that power.</div>
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Marc Juul wrote:
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cite="mid:CAL4ejvRETz3y2m8C2KMvNR0Zeu7gcSvAgPAxqCngMRThsVtNAQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">We are not trying to be inclusive of everyone. We are
trying very
deliberately to exclude profiteering assholes who put their own personal
benefit first.</blockquote>
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