<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:#660000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">((does jeremy know he is not a member?))</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:#660000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:#660000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:#660000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">(sorry jenny i meant reply to all)</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Jenny Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunabananas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I should also add to this thread that my phone, left behind in la commune after the unconference, disappeared sometime in the last 48 hours. It's important that we only vouch for people we sincerely trust, and otherwise trust each other to be reasonably protective of ensuring the safety of the space.<br><br></div>None of what I just wrote necessarily applies to the situation with Pidgeon, but rather is riffing off of Jake's call to be more cautious about who we let (and let linger, especially) in the space.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div>Jenny<br>
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-Laurie Anderson<br>
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"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."<br>
-Hannah Arendt<br>
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"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."<br>
-Stéphane Mallarmé<br>
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<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Jenny Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunabananas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Jeremy is not officially a member of sudo room.<br><br></div>Obviously, i consider Jeremy a sudoer and friend, but he's never applied for membership and as such is unable to vouch for Pidgeon.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Jenny<br>
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<a href="http://thepyre.org/" target="_blank">http://thepyre.org</a><br>
<a href="http://thevirtualcampfire.org/" target="_blank">http://thevirtualcampfire.org</a><br>
<a href="http://technomadic.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">http://technomadic.tumblr.com</a><br>
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"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."<br>
-Laurie Anderson<br>
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"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."<br>
-Hannah Arendt<br>
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"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."<br>
-Stéphane Mallarmé<br>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:38 PM, niki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:niki.shelley@gmail.com" target="_blank">niki.shelley@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sorry! I told them.</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:29 PM, niki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:niki.shelley@gmail.com" target="_blank">niki.shelley@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Pidgeon has been here all day today (and is still here). I told him he needed a member of a member collective to vouch for him in order to be here and Jeremy agreed to do so.<span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>N</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Jake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">slightly tall, thin, male-bodied person with long wavy black hair all on one side of the head. no facial hair.<div><div><br>
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:<br>
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Is there a picture of this Pidgeon person somewhere? No idea who they is.<br>
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Patrik<br>
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On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br>
last night (sunday) as the last of us were getting ready to leave after a long day of BACH, i noticed that Pidgeon was sitting alone in CCL<br>
with headphones in and using a laptop.<br>
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[pidgeon prefers the pronoun "they" but it is a single person]<br>
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knowing that this person made trouble at noisebridge in the past, and assuming that they were trying to squat the omni, i went up and gave<br>
notice that "we are getting ready to leave and close up" and Pidgeon took the hint and started packing up their backpack...<br>
<br>
twenty minutes later pidgeon was still slowly gathering things together to get ready to leave.. it was annoyingly obvious that they were<br>
trying to delay leaving so that I would leave first and they could stay.<br>
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tonight, Korl mentioned that Pidgeon was present but did not seem to be anyone's guest, and I agreed that they were here without anyone's<br>
sponsorship of any kind. A person with no member-sponsor present can be asked to leave for no reason, but before doing that I went to speak<br>
with others present about the situation.<br>
<br>
No one present claimed Pidgeon as their guest, or objected to asking them to leave. I mentioned this to marc and started posting the<br>
following to irc:<br>
<a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2014-February/042456.html" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/<u></u>pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/<u></u>2014-February/042456.html</a><br>
<a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-October/039972.html" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/<u></u>pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/<u></u>2013-October/039972.html</a><br>
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a minute later marc returned from a "sweep" of the building and found Pidgeon in a downstairs room with the door pulled shut, getting<br>
comfortable, lying on their belly listening to music.<br>
<br>
Marc asked if they were part of a collective, Pidgeon said they were not, and Marc said that we are not open to the public and asked them to<br>
leave.<br>
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please be aware that people are already trying to squat the omni and it will only get more intense. I have no patience for this because I<br>
feel that the omni is more valuable to us as a community space, shared for all, rather than a big building to be turned into private quarters<br>
for the few who care little enough about their community to do something like that.<br>
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Noisebridge regularly has problems with people sleeping on top of the elevator, above the loft areas, and in the basement of the building, and<br>
their building is not nearly as cavernous and expansive as ours.<br>
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-jake<br>
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