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    Oops sent this to wrong list. Cheers!<br>
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      HI there,<br>
      <br>
      I have no time to work on this for the rest of the week.
      Completely buried in stuff at work that's on an uncompromising and
      unpredictable timeline.<br>
      <br>
       Can someone else handle or bottom line formatting the bylaws in a
      way that can be sent and working with Vicky and Whitney to insert
      all the work we did into the form, checking it 100 times, and
      shipping it out?<br>
      <br>
      Thanks, <br>
      April<br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/2/14 9:56 PM, Julio Rios wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAOG09vfnqQLzh7GaXjOTiR2Ak8vz-XG6tq7ZG4m9tJurHiy0ww@mail.gmail.com"
        type="cite">
        <div dir="ltr">I probably won't be there Tuesday because Diana
          is coming back from a long trip, but let me know if there are
          outstanding issues I can help with in the meantime.</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:39 PM, <span
              dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:hol@gaskill.com" target="_blank">hol@gaskill.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                <p>i'll be there tues to plan for the space hackathon
                  and can drop in.  thanks april for leading the charge!</p>
                <p> </p>
                <div> </div>
                <p>On 2014-11-02 19:54, april glaser wrote:</p>
                <blockquote type="cite"
                  style="padding-left:5px;border-left:#1010ff 2px
                  solid;margin-left:5px">Thanks all! Totally inspiring
                  to see everyone jumping in here.<br>
                  <br>
                  Good to know I don't have to review the articles of
                  association, and in that case, I'm going to start
                  going over and formatting the bylaws and articles of
                  incorporation to include in our submission.<br>
                  <br>
                  It now looks like every little responsibility has been
                  bottom lined. <br>
                  <br>
                  <strong>I propose that those who can, meet on Tuesday
                    at 7 at Sudoroom to collect what we have so far and
                    whip up a near-final draft. Vicky, Whit and I can
                    make it. If you can't please send along whatever
                    part you worked on</strong> so we can compile things
                  and compliment you behind your back.<br>
                  <br>
                  a.<br>
                  <br>
                  <div>On 11/2/14 7:31 PM, Maximilian Klein wrote:</div>
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                      <div>Whit, sending you my address now privately.</div>
                      April et al, this is the filled out financials
                      with bank statements attached.</div>
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                          <div dir="ltr">
                            <div>Make a great day,<br>
                              Max Klein ‽ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://notconfusing.com/"
                                target="_blank">http://notconfusing.com/</a>
                            </div>
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                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at
                        7:09 PM, Jenny Ryan <span><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">tunabananas@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                          style="border-left:1px #ccc
                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                          <div dir="ltr">Whit, do you need help getting
                            all names and addresses of the Board
                            members?
                            <div> </div>
                            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                title="User:Anca (page does not exist)"
href="https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Anca&action=edit&redlink=1"
                                target="_blank">Anca M</a>, <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true" title="User:Hol"
href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Hol" target="_blank">Hol G</a>, <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                title="User:Tunabananas"
                                href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Tunabananas"
                                target="_blank">Jenny R</a>, Julio R,
                              Liberty M, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                title="User:Juul"
                                href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Juul"
                                target="_blank">Marc J</a> [treasurer],
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                title="User:Mk30"
                                href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Mk30"
                                target="_blank">Marina K</a>, <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true" title="User:Matt"
href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Matt" target="_blank">Matt S</a>, <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                title="User:Maximilianklein"
                                href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Maximilianklein"
                                target="_blank">Max K</a>, Naomi M, Romy
                              I, Troy M, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                title="User:YkciV"
                                href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:YkciV"
                                target="_blank">Vicky K</a>. </div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>I know the addresses of 6 outta 13:
                              Jenny, Liberty, Marc, Marina, Matt, and
                              Vicky. Will send to you in a pm.</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra"><span><span><br
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                              </span></span>
                            <div>
                              <div>Jenny<br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://jennyryan.net/"
                                  target="_blank">http://jennyryan.net</a><br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://thepyre.org/"
                                  target="_blank">http://thepyre.org</a><br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://thevirtualcampfire.org/"
                                  target="_blank">http://thevirtualcampfire.org</a><br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://technomadic.tumblr.com/"
                                  target="_blank">http://technomadic.tumblr.com</a><br>
                                <br>
                                `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`<br>
                                <div>"Technology is the campfire around
                                  which we tell our stories."<br>
                                  -Laurie Anderson<br>
                                  <br>
                                  "Storytelling reveals meaning without
                                  committing the error of defining it."<br>
                                   -Hannah Arendt<br>
                                  <br>
                                  "To define is to kill. To suggest is
                                  to create."<br>
                                  -Stéphane Mallarmé<br>
                                  ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`</div>
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                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 2,
                                  2014 at 6:32 PM, Maximilian Klein <span><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:isalix@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">isalix@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                    style="border-left:1px #ccc
                                    solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                    <div dir="ltr">Yes, I am bottom
                                      lining Part III Side 4</div>
                                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br
                                        clear="all">
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                            <div>Make a great day,<br>
                                              Max Klein ‽ <a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="http://notconfusing.com/"
                                                target="_blank">http://notconfusing.com/</a>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
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                                        <div><br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM,
                                            Jenny Ryan <span><<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com"
                                                target="_blank">tunabananas@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
                                            <blockquote
                                              class="gmail_quote"
                                              style="margin:0 0 0
                                              .8ex;padding-left:1ex">
                                              <div dir="ltr">Attached is
                                                a copy of sudo room's
                                                lease from 2141
                                                Broadway, but it's
                                                unsigned.
                                                <div> </div>
                                                <div>Matt, do you have a
                                                  signed copy?</div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><span><span><br
                                                      clear="all">
                                                  </span></span>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>Jenny<br>
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://jennyryan.net/" target="_blank">http://jennyryan.net</a><br>
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://thepyre.org/" target="_blank">http://thepyre.org</a><br>
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://thevirtualcampfire.org/" target="_blank">http://thevirtualcampfire.org</a><br>
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://technomadic.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">http://technomadic.tumblr.com</a><br>
                                                    <br>
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`<br>
                                                    <div>"Technology is
                                                      the campfire
                                                      around which we
                                                      tell our stories."<br>
                                                      -Laurie Anderson<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      "Storytelling
                                                      reveals meaning
                                                      without committing
                                                      the error of
                                                      defining it."<br>
                                                       -Hannah Arendt<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      "To define is to
                                                      kill. To suggest
                                                      is to create."<br>
                                                      -Stéphane Mallarmé<br>
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`</div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="gmail_quote">On

                                                      Sun, Nov 2, 2014
                                                      at 5:58 PM, Julio
                                                      Rios <span><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">julio.rios@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                      wrote:<br>
                                                      <blockquote
                                                        class="gmail_quote"
style="padding-left:1ex">
                                                        <p dir="ltr">Thanks

                                                          Jenny. I think
                                                          we needed the
                                                          2013 lease
                                                          agreement. </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Nov 2, 2014
                                                          5:40 PM,
                                                          "Jenny Ryan"
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunabananas@gmail.com</a>>

                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">I
                                                          can fill out
                                                          the parts
                                                          about
                                                          fundraising,
                                                          procure a copy
                                                          of the
                                                          (Current?)
                                                          lease, and
                                                          proofread the
                                                          final.
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks so
                                                          much to all
                                                          who are
                                                          helping with
                                                          this!! <3</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Jenny<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://jennyryan.net/" target="_blank">http://jennyryan.net</a><br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://thepyre.org/" target="_blank">http://thepyre.org</a><br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://thevirtualcampfire.org/" target="_blank">http://thevirtualcampfire.org</a><br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://technomadic.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">http://technomadic.tumblr.com</a><br>
                                                          <br>
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`<br>
                                                          <div>"Technology

                                                          is the
                                                          campfire
                                                          around which
                                                          we tell our
                                                          stories."<br>
                                                          -Laurie
                                                          Anderson<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          "Storytelling
                                                          reveals
                                                          meaning
                                                          without
                                                          committing the
                                                          error of
                                                          defining it."<br>
                                                           -Hannah
                                                          Arendt<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          "To define is
                                                          to kill. To
                                                          suggest is to
                                                          create."<br>
                                                          -Stéphane
                                                          Mallarmé<br>
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Sun, Nov 2,
                                                          2014 at 4:19
                                                          PM, <span><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hol@gaskill.com" target="_blank">hol@gaskill.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div
                                                          style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
                                                          <pre><span>>Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation.

</span>This has been the plan whenever we've discussed it.  The articles of <em>association</em> are for our use and are intended to be updated freely without any legal weight, just the weight of our belief in the system we are creating.</pre>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <p> </p>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <p>On
                                                          2014-11-02
                                                          10:24, yar
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <pre>On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Julio Rios <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:julio.rios@gmail.com" target="_blank">julio.rios@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</pre>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px">In

                                                          theory, since
                                                          the Articles
                                                          of Association
                                                          can change,
                                                          and they are
                                                          actually what
                                                          govern sudo
                                                          room, so it
                                                          may be better
                                                          not to submit
                                                          them....
                                                          Although the
                                                          latest version
                                                          should be on
                                                          the wiki, I
                                                          don't think
                                                          this is
                                                          relevant for
                                                          the state and
                                                          federal
                                                          paperwork.</blockquote>
                                                          <pre>Yes, I agree. We need not, and should not, submit our Articles of
Association to the state. The 3500 refers to articles of
incorporation. Most organizations don't have "articles of
association". It's just a weird anarchist thing that we did over a
year before we became any sort of legal entity. :)</pre>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px">If

                                                          it hasn't
                                                          happened
                                                          already, we
                                                          should also
                                                          gain consensus
                                                          on the bylaws
                                                          and articles
                                                          [of
                                                          incorporation]
                                                          before
                                                          submitting
                                                          them. I
                                                          believe Yar
                                                          said we never
                                                          submitted the
                                                          bylaws because
                                                          we never
                                                          gained
                                                          consensus. Is
                                                          there an
                                                          expedited
                                                          process for
                                                          getting a
                                                          decision on
                                                          this? In
                                                          theory, this
                                                          is due on Nov
                                                          7, although
                                                          I've heard the
                                                          penalties for
                                                          delay are not
                                                          severe.</blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Consensus
                                                          was never
                                                          really the
                                                          issue.
                                                          Laziness was
                                                          the issue.
                                                          There were a
                                                          number of
                                                          Sudoroom
                                                          meetings last
                                                          year where
                                                          consensus was
                                                          clear about
                                                          the direction
                                                          we wanted to
                                                          go, but it was
                                                          just never
                                                          implemented.
                                                          If we can have
                                                          something
                                                          ready to read
                                                          on Wednesday
                                                          and mail on
                                                          Thursday,
                                                          that's icing
                                                          on the cake,
                                                          but I say just
                                                          do what we
                                                          need to do for
                                                          now, including
                                                          mailing it
                                                          before
                                                          Wednesday if
                                                          need be. From
                                                          what I
                                                          understand,
                                                          we'll have the
                                                          chance to
                                                          change things
                                                          again when we
                                                          do 501c3 so
                                                          it's just an
                                                          interim
                                                          document.
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