Yes, in other words, you will go up to the panel with the inductive amplifier and note that for example three adjacent breakers will seem positive for the signal. It will be one of those three...<span></span><br><br>On Sunday, February 1, 2015, Patrik D'haeseleer <<a href="mailto:patrikd@gmail.com">patrikd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Oh, you definitely have to double-check, of course. Easy enough to do: if you think you've identified the right breaker, just switch it off and the light on the transmitter will go off, and the signal on the line will disappear (or not)...<div><br></div><div>Patrik</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 12:35 AM, David Keenan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkeenan44@gmail.com');" target="_blank">dkeenan44@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for all your work, Steve!<div><br></div><div>FYI the off the shelf circuit tracers dont really work. You need a really expensive pro one. Saying this from experience in Omni, cause I bought one too. Basically what happens is the trace leaks into other circuits a lot and you get misreadings, so don't put a lot of faith in them - you'll have to physically test'em to be sure.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>David</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Steve Bloom <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stevebloom55@gmail.com');" target="_blank">stevebloom55@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks, Patrik, that should come in handy!<span><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888">-- Steve<br></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','patrikd@gmail.com');" target="_blank">patrikd@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">By the way, we do have a circuit tracer in CCL, in case anyone needs one. You plug a little gizmo into a live outlet, or clip it onto a set of live wires, and it send a small audio signal up through the wire that you can detect at the breaker panel.<div><br></div><div>It's in the drawer labeled "tools" in one of the lab benches. The orange gadget is the sensor. the small wall wart device is the transmitter.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Patrik</div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Steve Bloom <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stevebloom55@gmail.com');" target="_blank">stevebloom55@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Thanks for posting this, David.<br><br></div>Cover is on and the tripping problem should now be at least reduced since I was able to split the circuit such that the kitchen and den are on one breaker (now #7) and the hallways on another (#8). In addition, the LC extension cord (to which the overhead light strings are attached) has been removed from that same circuit and put on #6, which is powering a temporary receptacle in LC that we're also using for our power tools.<br><br></div>All nine of the other breakers are turned off since they're no longer doing anything, although I'm unwiring them only after confirming what they're actually attached to. Most of these were to now-defunct lighting and power circuits in the bar area. Next week several will be repurposed for new receptacle circuits in LC to be installed along the newly-sheetrocked walls.<br><br></div><div><div></div>The note taped to the front of the panel now reflects this new condition.<br><br>Some of these circuits are going to be hard to trace and if so will be left in place for the time being with the breaker off, so if anyone notices a loss of power to anything that was working as of last week, please let me know.<br></div><div><br></div>If possible, I'll get the den onto a separate circuit from the kitchen.<span><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><div><br></div><div>-- Steve<br></div></div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:25 PM, David Keenan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkeenan44@gmail.com');" target="_blank">dkeenan44@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>The tireless volunteers Steve Bloom ( <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stevebloom55@gmail.com');" target="_blank">stevebloom55@gmail.com</a> ) and I believe Rayc ( what is is email - anyone know? ) are in the midst of decommissioning electrical runs from to La Commune, from the panel in Rise Above that also feeds the oft-tripping breaker to the upstairs. </div><div><br></div><div>All, before touching this panel, please attempt to communicate first with Steve or Rayc regarding whether it safe to do. Specifically, all, NEVER reach your hand inside a panel that does not have a cover plate on (covering the electrical wires and connections), even if it is only to flip a breaker. Instead, at a minimum, put the cover plate back on first. </div><div><br></div><div>This panel includes the oft-tripping breaker for the Kitchen and TIL etc offices - #8, so please pay heed. </div><div><br></div><div>Steve showed me that he decommissioned breakers # 7 & 11. </div><div>Breakers 3&4 were I believe decomissioned by an electrician hired by Rise Above. </div><div>#8 is the one that always trips and needs to be worked on / rewired to prevent this</div><div><br></div><div>Please see the photo below for reference.. thanks!</div><div><img src="cid:ii_14b42f3e5c652e46" alt="Inline image 1" height="483" width="362"><span><font color="#888888"><br><div><br></div></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div>David</div></font></span></div>
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