<p dir="ltr">Excellent. Did you ever get those RGB strip lights to light up? We could always try to use those to modulate the light quality in the rest of the hall.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Patrik</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 21, 2015 5:17 PM, "Jake" <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I got a 66% refund from Aliexpress after sending pictures of voltmeter, ammeter, and LEDs proving that they're 5.5 watts instead of "16-20" watts<br>
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so i spent the money on "10 watt" white LEDs from electronic goldmine, three for $12, i got 12 of them which should be enough to replace an entire overhead fixture in sudoroom with them - and have lots more light with slightly less power.<br>
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i don't know whether they're hot or cold white.<br>
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On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:<br>
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Bummer! I noticed some comments that were complaining about the wattage as well. One comment mentioned the 9W version is only 3W. I suspect many people don't even<br>
bother checking the specs...<br>
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My 10W LED strips from Electronic Goldmine should get here by tomorrow - hopefully we'll have a bit more luck with those. Did anyone else put in an order as well?<br>
Unfortunately, they've now gone back up from their 1-day-sale price of $4 to their usual price of $14 a piece.<br>
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Patrik<br>
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br>
      I received the lights linked below, and they were only 5.5 watts instead of "16-20 watts" so i opened a dispute and asked for 66% of my our money back.<br>
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      Anyway, we now have eight highly directional LED lights, four warm and four cold, 5.5 watts each.<br>
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      -jake<br>
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            On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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                  I looked on Ali Express and sorted by customer satisfaction, looking for LED lighting in "downlights" which suggests<br>
                  lamps shining downward?<br>
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                  these look good but the seller rating is only 97.4%:<br>
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            <a href="http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Aluminum-9W-15W-21W-27W-45W-LED-Downlight-Ceiling-lights-lamp-AC85-265V-With/2027740342.html" target="_blank">http://www.aliexpress.com/<u></u>item/High-Quality-Aluminum-9W-<u></u>15W-21W-27W-45W-LED-Downlight-<u></u>Ceiling-lights-lamp-AC85-265V-<u></u>With/2027740342.html</a><br>
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                  they seem to be "16 to 21" watts for $6.95 including shipping.  They offer "warm" and "cold" flavors so we could just get a mix of the<br>
            two kinds, for<br>
                  something in the middle when they're all on.<br>
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                  here is the search i was doing:<br>
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                  <a href="http://www.aliexpress.com/category/200002289/led-downlights.html?site=glo&isrefine=y&shipCountry=US&SortType=total_weight_score_desc" target="_blank">http://www.aliexpress.com/<u></u>category/200002289/led-<u></u>downlights.html?site=glo&<u></u>isrefine=y&shipCountry=US&<u></u>SortType=total_weight_score_<u></u>desc</a><br>
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                  this one is also a good price, and the seller rating is higher (98.1%)<br>
                  <a href="http://www.aliexpress.com/item/21W-Antifogging-Epistar-led-downlight-AC85-265V-Contains-the-drive-power-free-shipping/2047334906.html" target="_blank">http://www.aliexpress.com/<u></u>item/21W-Antifogging-Epistar-<u></u>led-downlight-AC85-265V-<u></u>Contains-the-drive-power-free-<u></u>shipping/2047334906.html</a><br>
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                  ultimately i have higher confidence in the quality of something we buy from Cree at Home Despot, but I think we should give China a<br>
            chance and buy a few<br>
                  of the "16 to 21 watt" ones and see how they compare.<br>
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                  For reference, Cree (a reputable company) and other LED bulbs sold at Home Despot are called "60 watt replacement" bulbs while<br>
            actually using 9 to 11<br>
                  watts.  The light fixtures presently in Sudoroom and CCL each have two 75-watt flourescent bulbs, for a total of 900 watts of light in<br>
            the bocce ball<br>
                  room when they're all working.<br>
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                  That suggests that 150 watts of LED lighting would be equivalent, which would cost about $60 from the first aliexpress link i<br>
            provided.<br>
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                  These lights just have wires coming out, so we would perhaps attach them onto the metal structures that are presently holding<br>
            flourescent lights for<br>
                  simplicity, until we come up with something better.<br>
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                  -jake<br>
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