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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">That's what they're after too--global
      when possible, open standards/commons framework required. Holding
      the health care conversation exclusively between the providers and
      the insurance co's &/or gov, without any patient involvement,
      is a bad practice on so MANY levels.<br>
      <br>
      One of the main folks working on this is Adrian Gropper at
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://healthurl.com/">http://healthurl.com/</a> -- there are also several folks interested
      in the VA specifically (largest medical database in the world?
      also one of the most dysfunctional systems), but their sites/work
      isn't at my fingertips. Also related is ProjectVRM.org and several
      others: Kantara Initiative and Identity Commons are doing work at
      different levels (from deep tech to notice and consent protocols).
      I'm sure there are more.<br>
      <br>
        j.<br>
      <br>
      P.S. Non-medical-related: there are folks also working to disrupt
      the real estate broker industry, the information brokerage
      industry, the marketing industry, and more. If anyone has a thorn,
      I'm happy to connect you.<br>
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      On 4/16/15 3:03 PM, Praveen Sinha wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I do want a discussion it.... But I want a
        discussion that will facilitate a global commons framework, not
        an individual startup.  I do I want to learn a lot more about
        the regulatory considerations at play for sure!!!<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:28 PM, The
          Staff <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:hello@sl-co.com" target="_blank">hello@sl-co.com</a>></span>
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            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Praveen, Patrik,
              <div><br>
                <div>There are folks working to create a personal data
                  store that would include health data. If you'd like to
                  be part of this deep discussion, I'd be happy to
                  connect you. Fascinating work, regulatory
                  considerations, intrenched forces to battle.</div>
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                <div>  j.
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                            <div>On Apr 15, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Praveen
                              Sinha <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:dmhomee@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">dmhomee@gmail.com</a>>
                              wrote:</div>
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                              <div dir="ltr">I was thinking about making
                                some sort of open source repo for mri /
                                anatomy / 3d health if we get a better
                                understanding if the issues.  I'm
                                tempted to invite my doctor if we all
                                physically meet!</div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15,
                                  2015 at 12:15 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:patrikd@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">patrikd@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">I totally think
                                      there's a market for making a 21st
                                      century anatomical model.
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                                      <div>We used to have one of those
                                        plastic torso dummies at school,
                                        with removable internal organs,
                                        each in a different color. We
                                        could make one of those, except
                                        3D printed from real body scans.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Check out the Visible Human
                                        Project for a really cool
                                        whole-body dataset: </div>
                                      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_Human_Project"
                                          target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_Human_Project</a><span><font
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                                          <div>Patrik</div>
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 8:57
                                            PM, Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:yandoryn@gmail.com"
                                                target="_blank">yandoryn@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                              <div dir="ltr">I recently
                                                got a cervical spine MRI
                                                done, and would love to
                                                print it. I mean, it's a
                                                spine! Still need to go
                                                pick up the disc,
                                                though. (Not the discs
                                                in my spine. :P)</div>
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                                                      class="gmail_quote">On
                                                      Tue, Apr 14, 2015
                                                      at 8:12 PM,
                                                      Praveen Sinha <span
                                                        dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dmhomee@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmhomee@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                                                          <div>Hi Romy,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
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                                                          <div>It's cool
                                                          that you say
                                                          this because I
                                                          just got back
                                                          from the
                                                          clinic with my
                                                          own MRI scan
                                                          of my knee. 
                                                          The ortho doc
                                                          that I am
                                                          seeing was
                                                          very excitedly
                                                          asking me on
                                                          how it would
                                                          be possible to
                                                          do 3d
                                                          projections
                                                          and prints of
                                                          these joints,
                                                          and I just
                                                          read the
                                                          article in
                                                          make magazine
                                                          on my way
                                                          back.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I'm very
                                                          interested in
                                                          replicating
                                                          this, and if
                                                          possible
                                                          generate a low
                                                          cost guide for
                                                          folks and
                                                          doctors.  This
                                                          shit is way to
                                                          important for
                                                          expensive
                                                          consultants to
                                                          eat up the
                                                          market.  I'm
                                                          more than
                                                          happy to come
                                                          in next week
                                                          and start
                                                          collaborating!</div>
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                                                          <div>On Tue,
                                                          Apr 14, 2015
                                                          at 8:36 AM,
                                                          Romy Ilano <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:romy@snowyla.com" target="_blank">romy@snowyla.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/MRI_3D_Printing"
target="_blank">https://sudoroom.org/wiki/MRI_3D_Printing</a>
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                                                          <div>Hi, I've
                                                          been having
                                                          fun at
                                                          SudoRoom
                                                          lately. I have
                                                          wanted to <b>3D
                                                          Print my MRI
                                                          of my ankle!</b></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I'm
                                                          trying to
                                                          overcome some
                                                          hurdles ></div>
                                                          <div>--  I'm
                                                          fundamentally
                                                          a software and
                                                          2D digital
                                                          person
                                                          normally, it's
                                                          hard for me to
                                                          get into 3D
                                                          modelling<br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">--
                                                          I'm used to
                                                          keyboards, not
                                                          wrenches and
                                                          touching
                                                          things which
                                                          is why I go to
                                                          hardware hack
                                                          night</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">I
                                                          want to get
                                                          beyond the
                                                          stages of just
                                                          looking at
                                                          stuff on the
                                                          3D Printer.
                                                          Anyone else up
                                                          to it? I'm
                                                          wondering if I
                                                          should come in
                                                          more than once
                                                          a week... <br>
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                                                          <div>Romy
                                                          Ilano</div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:romy@snowyla.com" target="_blank">romy@snowyla.com</a></div>
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