Gabby. Someone being verbally abusive calling me an idiot and telling me to shut up (yelling at me with threatening posture) makes my feeling unsafe legitimate. I am not an "enforcer" I just voice my concerns and ask for help when someone is acting abusive. If you have problems with me please voice them. I understand that I have some personal problems but I do my best to be accountable and humble to my communities concerns. Feel free to voice things that you think are problematic about me and I will do my best to be accountable to oppressive behavior. I don't feels its oppressive to talk to your community about people or behaviors you find to be problematic. If you feel like that there is a better way to a address concerns let me know what your alternatives are.<br><br>On Monday, May 25, 2015, Gabrielle Silverman <<a href="mailto:gabbywingnut@gmail.com">gabbywingnut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Elliot, with all due respect, I feel strongly that you should step back from the role of acting as "enforcer" for the building. I wish that there was a better distinction between personal problems and community problems that require community intervention, and I wish, Elliot, that you would recognize that you have A LOT of personal problems with people everywhere you go and that the role of the collective is not to make sure that everyone wants to be your friend. I know that the purpose of this listserve is not to publicly shame eachother but I am sick of this affecting every project that you touch. Also I think using the language of "safety" in a situation like this (that is uncomfortable but not unsafe) is super- manipulative and will contribute towards people not taking serious words seriously anymore and its a real problem. Please find a way to share space and participate in community projects without appointing yourself as enforcer or making yourself a spokesperson for groups that routinely disagree with you on your process and analysis. Please just be Elliot, and please find a way to deal. I am sorry if this hurts you or embarasses you. Know that I will have your back when it gets real. We can talk more in person if you like.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On May 25, 2015 7:24 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tunabananas@gmail.com');" target="_blank">tunabananas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>If you two <i>are absolutely unable</i> to work through this conflict on your own, then please email <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mediation@omnicommons.org');" target="_blank">mediation@omnicommons.org</a> to request mediation.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Jenny<br><br></div><div>Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!<br></div><div><a href="https://omnicommons.org/donate" target="_blank">https://omnicommons.org/donate</a><br>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:12 PM, yar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yardenack@gmail.com');" target="_blank">yardenack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:07 PM, WIld Cat <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wildcatofthewoods@gmail.com');" target="_blank">wildcatofthewoods@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> No this is a fabrication of the issue she left something rotten in the trash<br>
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</span>Maybe we should have a separate list for conflicts and mediation. Oh<br>
wait, the Omni already has one:<br>
<a href="https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/mediation" target="_blank">https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/mediation</a><br>
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Why are you even using sudo-discuss? None of these things even<br>
happened in Sudoroom, they happened elsewhere in the building.<br>
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