<div dir="ltr"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">We don't have a ton of laptops. We have a ton of netbooks. While that wouldn't be a problem in most cases for something like this, the smaller keyboard would be problematic for some users with mobility or coordination issues.</span></blockquote><div><br></div>Ok gotcha. We do have a handful of usb keyboards that we could set up to stay connected to one of the netbooks. Or we could use the laptop that Uprising has mentioned they're going to bring over.<div><br></div><div>I think that Lubuntu probably has the same accesibility features, but I'll double check.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">In the past, I've had trouble getting La Commune to get back at all about public terminals, which is why I'm frustrated and done trying to deal with them.</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Yeah and it does seem like they're taking a "hiatus". Perhaps we could just move forward with what we see as a decent plan and assume that we'll all be ok with eachother moving forwards in good faith.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The average desk/table is about the right height for a wheelchair user, so I'm confused as to why we'd need to have it brought down or use a standing desk.</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The only reason that Daniel and I were considering a folding down option was to discourage folks from using it as a default instead of walking upstairs to the terminals. It seems that people are sometimes drawn to the closest monitor, and so they might be just immediately drawn to a computer setup in La Commune. But just a thought. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yandoryn@gmail.com" target="_blank">yandoryn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">We don't have a ton of laptops. We have a ton of netbooks. While that wouldn't be a problem in most cases for something like this, the smaller keyboard would be problematic for some users with mobility or coordination issues.<div><br></div><div>In the past, I've had trouble getting La Commune to get back at all about public terminals, which is why I'm frustrated and done trying to deal with them.</div><div><br></div><div>I know stock Ubuntu has most necessary accessibility software. I don't know if lubuntu would. I assume so. I might want to look into it more deeply.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 4:03 PM, max b <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maxb.personal@gmail.com" target="_blank">maxb.personal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Daniel and I were talking about maybe some sort of appropriate height desk which would be able to fold down and then up and that would have a laptop just permanently mounted to it. The somewhat obscurity of it paired with some signage mentioning that there are plenty of terminals upstairs and to please reserve this for folks who wouldn't otherwise be able to access the other terminals.<div><br></div><div>We have a ton of laptops btw - they're in storage under the stairs in omni. Most of them need keyboard replacements (like $15 I think), but some of them I believe are good to go. Just need someone to set up a mini station. I would imagine it should be cleared with the La Commune folks, although I have a feeling they'd be on board. </div><div><br></div><div>I don't have a ton of cycles to build anything like that, but I'm wondering if there's a stopgap solution that we could use - maybe just hide one of the laptops somewhere around the La Commune Desk with a notice on it? Would one of the netbooks with stock lubuntu installed on it be ok? </div><div><br></div><div>Ryan, do you have any particular preferences for next steps?</div><div><br></div><div>Also - I'm not super familiar with any other accessibility software, but if someone pointed me in the right direction, I think it's probably a good idea for all of our terminals to have a base set installed.<span><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Max</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yandoryn@gmail.com" target="_blank">yandoryn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">That would be so amazing. Thank you so much.<div><br></div><div>If you could put a note on it saying that it's for accessible public use so it doesn't immediately disappear into a project, that would be rad.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Uprising <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hassanfathi@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">hassanfathi@sbcglobal.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Guys,</div><div>I will dropping a laptop today around 6:PM it can be used the way you guys feel like it.</div><div>Thanks <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div><div><div><div><br>On Jul 22, 2015, at 11:29 PM, Ryan <<a href="mailto:yandoryn@gmail.com" target="_blank">yandoryn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I haven't. :/ Maybe it would be better if it were a laptop that's somehow secured somewhere but can be put away, so it doesn't take up space when not being used by someone who needs it.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:08 PM, <a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Makes sense, Ryan.<div>So, have you found a place where we should work on?</div><div><br></div><div>Or/and, would you like me to see if I can set the computer you were using (or another) below the desk as I mentioned it to you, so that the display its a better eye level?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yandoryn@gmail.com" target="_blank">yandoryn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't think they should be near the entrance. If they are, they will get used instead of the ones upstairs... meaning folks who need an accessible computer won't be able to use it. Even if we put that they're reserved for people with disabilities, they'll get used first. I guarantee it.</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:31 PM, <a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thank you Jenny, but the credit goes to everyone who organically participated; from building the tables and onto the final result.<br><br></div><div>Ryan, I think the ideal would be to have one or two workstations near the entrance; but if not possible, then Jenny's idea sounds the best, imho. <br><br>What do you think? <br><br><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yandoryn@gmail.com" target="_blank">yandoryn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Good to know!<div><br></div><div>Every time I've come by, it just seems like more and more have accumulated over time. This just felt like critical mass, I guess. Maybe my timing has just been weird.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">that's an unusual situation, brought on by some hacker not putting away whatever they were playing with. usually it's just the imac and a big monitor.<span><br>
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Oh, no, there were 6 monitors over on these tables, not including the macs!<br>
Made the space really unusable for hacking.<br>
<br>
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Kelly Peng <<a href="mailto:ziqikelly@gmail.com" target="_blank">ziqikelly@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
I agree with Jake that those desk/monitor in sudo room are more<br>
for hacking, instead of for facebook/email. Ryan, the 2 Mac and<br>
one external monitor are mine, and I can remove two of them<br></span>
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Ryan <<a href="mailto:yandoryn@gmail.com" target="_blank">yandoryn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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If they are for hacking, I would suggest they not be used<br>
for monitor storage. I'd move them myself, if I could<br>
<br>
On Jul 13, 2015 1:35 PM, "Jake" <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br>
those desks in sudoroom are for hacking, not<br>
for public facebook and email checking -<br>
that's why we put the public terminals outside<br>
sudoroom.<br>
<br>
i agree that there should be ground-floor<br>
accessible public terminals, but not in<br>
sudoroom (any more than there already are)<br>
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-jake<br>
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:<br>
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Sitting where the Mac is in sudo,<br>
I'm thinking these tables might be<br>
awesome for more "public use" and<br>
less "using the computers tied to<br>
other devices." I'd leave a<br>
bit of space, to make sure people<br>
have room for crafty-type stuff<br>
but there's tons of monitors<br>
sitting here anyway... I'll bring<br>
it up on Wednesday.<br>
<br>
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:11 AM,<br>
<a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a><br>
<<a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
That sounds to me;<br>
thanks! And, when you get<br>
something ready, I would try to<br>
leave early from work and meet you<br>
then. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:01 PM,<br>
Ryan <<a href="mailto:yandoryn@gmail.com" target="_blank">yandoryn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Yeah, I can try and do that<br>
on Monday!<br>
Weekends can be tough for me right<br>
now because I'm only supposed to<br>
leave the house 2-3 days a week a<br>
la my physical therapist. But I'll<br>
get in touch<br>
after Monday and see what I can<br>
find.<br>
<br>
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:30 PM,<br>
<a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a><br>
<<a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Weekends are much easier for<br>
me to meet you; but if needed,<br>
weekdays evening is the other<br>
option.<br>
<br>
Anyhow, would you want to go ahead<br>
and take care of finding the area<br>
and of getting the okay from the<br>
corresponding collective? Then we<br>
can deal<br>
with the rest of the deets:<br>
tables, and materials, etc.<br>
<br>
Thanks Ryan!<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
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On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:41 PM,<br>
Ryan <<a href="mailto:yandoryn@gmail.com" target="_blank">yandoryn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Sure! I'll be in sudo by 2<br>
tomorrow, and while I'm meeting<br>
someone there to show her how to<br>
use the laser cutter, I'm sure<br>
I'll have<br>
time to help on this as<br>
well!<br>
<br>
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:25 PM,<br>
<a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a><br>
<<a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Accessibility. Good point<br>
Ryan.<br>
Would you like to work with me and<br>
see if we can set up accessible<br>
computers at the first floor? <br>
<br>
Thanks, and let me know,<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:42 PM,<br>
Ryan <<a href="mailto:yandoryn@gmail.com" target="_blank">yandoryn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Would be really cool if we<br>
could get some accessible stations<br>
for the public, rather than<br>
continuing to put them upstairs.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:15 PM,<br>
<a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a><br>
<<a href="mailto:danarauz@gmail.com" target="_blank">danarauz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Hellos,<br>
Good News!<br>
We now have a total of 10 new data<br>
drops at the second floor where<br>
the computers for the public are.<br>
<br>
Four computers are already setup<br>
and ready to use. The other six<br>
are already active, so it is<br>
matter of bringing more<br>
computers to the table and set<br>
them up.<br>
The second one from the left was<br>
not booting up, and since I had a<br>
bootable USB with Debian 8 with<br>
me; well.. I installed<br>
Debian on it. User name: user<br>
Password: user Root's password:<br>
user -Feel free to modify that if<br>
one wish or if it<br>
required. I just wanted to have it<br>
running at least.<br>
<br>
I removed all the extra<br>
unnecessary and/or unsafe<br>
equipment that was there on that<br>
table.<br>
Excuse me that it was brought down<br>
to one of the tables at Sudo, but<br>
I was too exhausted that I just<br>
wanted to go home. <br>
<br>
ALERTS:<br>
DNS: At the time that I left the<br>
building, 5pm, there were some DNS<br>
issues. DNS was not resolving.<br>
Pinging Google's DNS IP 8.8.8.8<br>
worked, but not when trying the<br>
domain name. The issue seemed<br>
intermittent. <br>
<br>
BANDWIDTH: Also, I ran a few speed<br>
tests and they area about 20Mbps /<br>
1.5Mbps. <br>
<br>
Thanks Hassan, Sierk, and<br>
Francisco for your help during<br>
these three days of work.<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
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