<div dir="ltr">Sure, I can be at the sudo meeting next week on Wednesday.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Mari M. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:strawberrypilabs@gmail.com" target="_blank">strawberrypilabs@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Autonomous, <div><br></div><div>Would you be interested in teaming up with me to work this out?  I'll be at the Omni next week for the Sudo and Omni meetings to try to get the ball rolling. I have two bands already confirmed.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Autonomous <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:autonomous666@gmail.com" target="_blank">autonomous666@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13px">I don't know the specific codes in Oakland but <100 people generally means it's a "private party" with no special permission needed. You could get away with much more if there aren't many people milling about outside.</span><div style="font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-size:13px">4 events per month x 99 attendees x $20 cover charge = $7920/mo gross income.<div><div><img src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Berry Maker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:berrythemaker@gmail.com" target="_blank">berrythemaker@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Agreed! Several edm event coordinator friends have asked me about this. I've heard holding this type of event at Omni is be tricky atm though. Oakland needs more edm events.</p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 29, 2015 8:07 PM, "Autonomous" <<a href="mailto:autonomous666@gmail.com" target="_blank">autonomous666@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hosting EDM events in the ballroom could more than make up for the cash flow shortage:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.sfbayedm.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sfbayedm.com/</a><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:00 PM, robb <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sf99er@gmail.com" target="_blank">sf99er@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>ugg, $2k additional expenses :(<br><br></div>i really feel renting the common spaces is our only sustainable & viable option at this point...along with hosting our own fundraiser events.<br><br></div>maybe if we had a prodution collective responsible for optimizing teh commons for events, we could get more for them ;)<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Jenny Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunabananas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Off the top of my head, here are some numbers...<br><br>Monthly income from collectives:<br><table dir="ltr" style="table-layout:fixed;font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans,sans-serif;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="366" width="273"><colgroup><col width="124"><col width="47"><col width="60"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold;text-align:center">Collective/Tenant</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold;text-align:center">Rent</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold;text-align:center">Utilities</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">BAPS</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">1000</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Sudo</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">2000</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">CCL</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">2000</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Phat Beets</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">750</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Rise Above</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">600</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">TIL</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">300</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Durga Press</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">75</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Publication Studio </td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">100</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Vouched Books</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">75</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">MPM</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">600</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">FNB</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">0</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">LL</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">100</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">LM</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">300</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N<br></td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">GWS</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">350</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">?</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">CDP (meets weekly)<br></td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">50</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold">Total</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold;text-align:right">8300</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold">6-7 Y</td></tr></tbody></table><br><div>Utilities are split evenly among the 6-7 collectives that contribute, roughly $375 each (or $2250-2625).<br><div><br>I don't have definitive numbers for event rentals, but it's somewhere between $2-4K/month.<br><br></div><div>Current
 rent as of November is $15,281 as our 12 month $1000 monthly rebate has
 just expired. This number includes property insurance, property tax, 
business tax and waste management charges. Adding the above utilities 
(gas / electric / water) our total monthly expenses are on the order of 
$18K/month.<br><br></div>We will be losing an additional $1K/month after Rise Above leaves in December.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Jenny<br><br></div><span><div>Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!<br></div></span><div><a href="https://omnicommons.org/donate" target="_blank">https://omnicommons.org/donate</a><br>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Laura Turiano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scylla@riseup.net" target="_blank">scylla@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>There is often a finance report at the delegates meetings. Here is a link to the last one which answers many of your questions. <a href="https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2015/10/15_Delegates_Meeting#Financial_Report_Back" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2015/10/15_Delegates_Meeting#Financial_Report_Back</a><br>
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The kickstarter money is pretty much spent (and was specifically for building improvements not for rent) and we haven't gotten any grants in  while.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Andrew cardoza <<a href="mailto:threve35@gmail.com" target="_blank">threve35@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Are there any calculations of how much money we would need to raise in the<br>
following months? if so, what will be the monthly goals?<br>
Also, what are we currently raising per month?<br>
What is the shortfall?<br>
where is the money coming from?<br>
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events?<br>
from collectives?<br>
that kickstarter?<br>
grants?<br>
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Who do I ask, if no one responds to these inquiries?<br>
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Just for the record, the best place to ask these questions is the<br>
Omni's finance working group mailing list, which I've CC'd here.<br>
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