<p dir="ltr">Agreed! Several edm event coordinator friends have asked me about this. I've heard holding this type of event at Omni is be tricky atm though. Oakland needs more edm events.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 29, 2015 8:07 PM, "Autonomous" <<a href="mailto:autonomous666@gmail.com">autonomous666@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hosting EDM events in the ballroom could more than make up for the cash flow shortage:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.sfbayedm.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sfbayedm.com/</a><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:00 PM, robb <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sf99er@gmail.com" target="_blank">sf99er@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>ugg, $2k additional expenses :(<br><br></div>i really feel renting the common spaces is our only sustainable & viable option at this point...along with hosting our own fundraiser events.<br><br></div>maybe if we had a prodution collective responsible for optimizing teh commons for events, we could get more for them ;)<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Jenny Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com" target="_blank">tunabananas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Off the top of my head, here are some numbers...<br><br>Monthly income from collectives:<br><table dir="ltr" style="table-layout:fixed;font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans,sans-serif;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="366" width="273"><colgroup><col width="124"><col width="47"><col width="60"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold;text-align:center">Collective/Tenant</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold;text-align:center">Rent</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold;text-align:center">Utilities</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">BAPS</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">1000</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Sudo</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">2000</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">CCL</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">2000</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Phat Beets</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">750</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Rise Above</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">600</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">TIL</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">300</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Durga Press</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">75</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Publication Studio </td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">100</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">Vouched Books</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">75</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">MPM</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">600</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">Y</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">FNB</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">0</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">LL</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">100</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">LM</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">300</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N<br></td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">GWS</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">350</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">?</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom">CDP (meets weekly)<br></td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:right">50</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;text-align:center">N</td></tr><tr style="height:21px"><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold">Total</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold;text-align:right">8300</td><td style="padding:2px 3px;vertical-align:bottom;font-weight:bold">6-7 Y</td></tr></tbody></table><br><div>Utilities are split evenly among the 6-7 collectives that contribute, roughly $375 each (or $2250-2625).<br><div><br>I don't have definitive numbers for event rentals, but it's somewhere between $2-4K/month.<br><br></div><div>Current
 rent as of November is $15,281 as our 12 month $1000 monthly rebate has
 just expired. This number includes property insurance, property tax, 
business tax and waste management charges. Adding the above utilities 
(gas / electric / water) our total monthly expenses are on the order of 
$18K/month.<br><br></div>We will be losing an additional $1K/month after Rise Above leaves in December.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Jenny<br><br></div><span><div>Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!<br></div></span><div><a href="https://omnicommons.org/donate" target="_blank">https://omnicommons.org/donate</a><br>
<br>
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`<br>
<div>
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."<br>
-Laurie Anderson<br>
<br>
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."<br>
 -Hannah Arendt<br>
<br>
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."<br>
-Stéphane Mallarmé<br>
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`</div>
</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Laura Turiano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scylla@riseup.net" target="_blank">scylla@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>There is often a finance report at the delegates meetings. Here is a link to the last one which answers many of your questions. <a href="https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2015/10/15_Delegates_Meeting#Financial_Report_Back" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2015/10/15_Delegates_Meeting#Financial_Report_Back</a><br>
<br>
The kickstarter money is pretty much spent (and was specifically for building improvements not for rent) and we haven't gotten any grants in  while.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
Laura</font></span><span><br>
<br>
On 10/28/15 12:57 PM, yar wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Andrew cardoza <<a href="mailto:threve35@gmail.com" target="_blank">threve35@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Are there any calculations of how much money we would need to raise in the<br>
following months? if so, what will be the monthly goals?<br>
Also, what are we currently raising per month?<br>
What is the shortfall?<br>
where is the money coming from?<br>
<br>
events?<br>
from collectives?<br>
that kickstarter?<br>
grants?<br>
<br>
Who do I ask, if no one responds to these inquiries?<br>
</blockquote>
Just for the record, the best place to ask these questions is the<br>
Omni's finance working group mailing list, which I've CC'd here.<br>
<br>
<a href="mailto:finance@lists.omnicommons.org" target="_blank">finance@lists.omnicommons.org</a><br>
<a href="https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/finance" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/finance</a><br>
_______________________________________________<br></span><span>
discuss mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.omnicommons.org" target="_blank">discuss@lists.omnicommons.org</a><br>
<a href="https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
</span></blockquote>
<br></div></div><div><div>
_______________________________________________<br>
finance mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:finance@lists.omnicommons.org" target="_blank">finance@lists.omnicommons.org</a><br>
<a href="https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/finance" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/finance</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
sudo-discuss mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org" target="_blank">sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org</a><br>
<a href="https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
sudo-discuss mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org">sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org</a><br>
<a href="https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div>