<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Hi Ed,</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">As I understand it, these devices were a donation to GCEA. As GCEA does not have a dedicated space at Omni, and since the delegates assembly agreed having more devices in te library hall wouldn’t be an issue and could maybe be a plus, that was, as I recall, OK’d. Obviously passwords limit their common use. Nonetheless, I see no reason why, nor has anything happened to my knowledge to suggest otherwise, we shouldn’t continue to consider GCEA and Almaz (as the regular GCEA delegate, and all around Omni volunteer) as the stewards of those device. So before anything more gets done to them, I believe it should be cleared with Almaz and GCEA.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">My personal opinion is that a dual boot using that minor of a portion of the HDs is a good solution. I see no reason why GCEA would object once the proposal is communicated clearly (not everyone knows what a “dual boot” is); it makes sense that there be a way for Commoners to use the devices since they are in a Common area; it also makes sense that GCEA have the installation they want on there for the youth etc to study with. But again, I think this suggestion should first be cleared before acted on further. I can understand why you and “someone” went forward with the previous Linux installations previously without asking, given the locations of the devices and given hacking habits of Sudoers, nonetheless I think that when the fate of a given set of devices is unknown, and the devices themselves are not in, e.g., Sudo Room itself, now and in the future it would be best for people to ask and wait for confirmation before going ahead rather than going ahead and asking after the fact. Cleary, you’re currently asking. Relatedly, would it be possible to restore Windows to the first device down there with Linux on it, from which it sounds like it was removed? </div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Best,</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Julian</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">BAPS</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">On November 8, 2017 at 4:03:00 PM, Ed Biow (<a href="mailto:biow@riseup.net">biow@riseup.net</a>) wrote:</div> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>A few months ago about a dozen Core 2 Duo Lenovo boxes with 4 GB of RAM
<br>materialized in the basement hall way. They were all left running with
<br>the monitors on, but they had Windohs on them and the lock screens
<br>required a password which was nowhere in evidence, and rebooting also
<br>required a PW to log in. Anywho, since they just seemed to be heating
<br>the basement, and it was summertime anyway I shut them all off, and did
<br>so a couple of weeks later when I noticed they were powered back on
<br>again. Since then they have mostly been off, and some folks know the
<br>password and have been using them periodically. Someone blew Linux Mint
<br>on one of the boxen.
<br>
<br>The one on the far left (facing the wall) was unplugged, I plugged it
<br>back in but it was beeping whenever it booted, but just required that I
<br>open the case and clamp down the memory sticks, All Praise Cyber Jesus.
<br>Since I had revived box from the dead like Lazarus I felt like no one
<br>would object if I made it dual boot Linux as well as Windows 10. The
<br>machines are mostly empty and have 300-500 GB hard drives, so I hacked
<br>off 60 GB and copied a Debian 9 installation off of a flash drive, fixed
<br>the fstab, installed grub, and set the machine to boot Windoze by
<br>default. The USB wifi sticks are the only way for these things to get
<br>internet since there is no ethernet cable in that hallway, but I managed
<br>to get one working with Debian and it seems stable.
<br>
<br>So unless someone objects I propose to set the rest of the machines to
<br>boot automatically into Windows (and not require a PW when the screen
<br>blanks) and also, I'd whack off a small chunk of their hard drives so
<br>all the boxes dual boot Windows and Debian stable (except possibly the
<br>Mint box, it may have been installed to stomp on the whole drive). It
<br>will give me something to do and keep me out of the sun. This will not
<br>adversely effect the Windows installations, which will still be
<br>available to do whatever folks do in that OS.
<br>
<br>Attached is a picture of the machine I mucked with, folks can go down
<br>there and play around with it. As those of you are wise in the ways of
<br>dual booting know, you can select Linux by using the "up arrow" key on
<br>the keyboard to scroll to the Debian 9 "grub" entry and hit the Enter
<br>key. It will automatically boot to a non-privileged "omni" account (PW:
<br>omnivore) and it will hang for a few seconds at the lightdm display
<br>manager to give you a chance to change the Linux desktop to taste (I
<br>configured it for mate, xfce, cinnamon & KDE, and could add other
<br>options if desired). You can also switch users to a "sudoroom" user,
<br>that has sudo privileges, the PW is the same as the username, except in
<br>drop case.
<br>
<br>In a world without Gates who needs Windows?
<br>
<br>Special Ed
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<br>i(diot)OS: iPGMail (<a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8">https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8</a>)
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<br>here: <a href="http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/">http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/</a>
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<br>An "easy" way to set up PGP on your computer is to download the free & open sources Thunderbird email client (available on Linux, Windohs & O$X) & install the EnigMail Add-On.
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<br>Looking forward to exchange snooping-free messages with you & making the NSA spend mondo bucks to discover the secret of my bube's kartofel kugel recipe.
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<br>PGP Public Key for <a href="mailto:biow@riseup.net">biow@riseup.net</a>:
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