<div dir="ltr">Here's the two github issues regarding lack of notifications, dating back to 2015. To quote rcsheets: "<i><b>I don't think anyone gets notified ever</b></i>"<div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/sudoroom/sudo-humans/issues/53">https://github.com/sudoroom/sudo-humans/issues/53</a><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/sudoroom/sudo-humans/issues/64">https://github.com/sudoroom/sudo-humans/issues/64</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Patrik</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:50 PM Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I'm guessing this has to do with the fact that email is very difficult to do<br>
without constant maintenance and that even if messages are being sent out,<br>
they're likely getting spam-canned. Off the top of my head, the solution could<br>
be to make the messages go directly to a small mailinglist so that humans can<br>
see the messages and then send a personal reminder to whomever fell off of<br>
their tithing.<br>
<br>
but I can't really understand how the code of sudo-humans works, so I have to<br>
defer to people who have contributed and are offering to contribute. But I do<br>
have access to the server it's running on.<br>
<br>
Patrik, is there a github issue specific to that problem?<br>
<br>
-jake<br>
<br>
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:<br>
<br>
> The lack of notifications to members or admins if anything goes wrong with<br>
> payments has long been on top of my list of peeves with sudo humans...<br>
><br>
> Patrik<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 12:12 AM Jake <<a href="mailto:jake@spaz.org" target="_blank">jake@spaz.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Ed,<br>
>><br>
>> My sudo humans payment stopped working around the same exact time, but i'm<br>
>> pretty sure it's because my card went missing and I got a new one at that<br>
>> time,<br>
>> but it could be a coincidence and that sudo humans and/or stripe has had<br>
>> problems that we didn't realize.<br>
>><br>
>> Does anyone know if we get emails from stripe about cards being rejected /<br>
>> automatic payments failing? Who is maintaining sudo humans?<br>
>><br>
>> Ed, if you're unable to login, is it possible that there's a capitalization<br>
>> issue with your login name? The system is case-dependant.<br>
>><br>
>> I was able to log in recently so I think the system is at least partially<br>
>> working. If you are still unable to get in, I am willing to work on it<br>
>> with<br>
>> you over the phone, you have my number and we're both on Signal.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm also trying to find other people who are more qualified to help with<br>
>> this.<br>
>><br>
>> sudo-humans is important! it's how we get our money so sudoroom and<br>
>> omni-commons can continue to exist.<br>
>><br>
>> -jake<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Ed Biow wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Wonder what is going on. It looks like sudohumans was working for me<br>
>> until<br>
>>> October:<br>
>>><br>
>>> 10/28/2020<br>
>>> XX3735 DDA RECURR SUDO ROOM OAKLAND CA 00383493 995809<br>
>>><br>
>>> -<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Is it still working for other people?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I wanted to check my account status so I went to<br>
>> <a href="https://sudoroom.org/humans/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sudoroom.org/humans/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> My username and password were rejected. Are other folks able to log in?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I gave John Torok a check a couple of weeks ago, so at least my dues<br>
>> have<br>
>>> been covered in the interim, and I should be fully Pfizered by the end<br>
>> of the<br>
>>> month, so I can lay out some more bread in meatspace, but sudohumans may<br>
>> be<br>
>>> having issues.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On a doganal note, Einstein will be Sweet 16 on Thursday if he is<br>
>> spared, but<br>
>>> he hasn't been able to handle the stairs for about 6 weeks, so we've<br>
>> been<br>
>>> living in the backyard in a tent and then then migrated to a shed. Gobs<br>
>> of<br>
>>> fun.<br>
>>><br>
>>> E²<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 4/5/21 5:36 PM, Yardena Cohen wrote:<br>
>>>> Apparently we stopped paying rent 6 months ago and nobody noticed<br>
>>>> because they were reading quickbooks wrong.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Anybody wanna solve this? I call not it.<br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org" target="_blank">sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org</a><br>
>>>> <a href="https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> +++++++++++++++++++sig hell+++++++++++++++++++<br>
>>> Edmund Joseph Biow<br>
>>> 328 Haddon Road<br>
>>> Oakland, California 94606<br>
>>> (510) 763-0591 (dumb landline, no caller ID, answering machine in attic,<br>
>>> generally monitored in morning)<br>
>>> (415) 623-6473 (cell, I monitor the landline more frequently)<br>
>>><br>
>>> EMAIL<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:biow@sonic.net" target="_blank">biow@sonic.net</a> (personal) - <a href="mailto:biow@riseup.net" target="_blank">biow@riseup.net</a> (political) -<br>
>> <a href="mailto:ejbiow@gmail.com" target="_blank">ejbiow@gmail.com</a><br>
>>> (large attachments) - <a href="mailto:ebiow@yasashi.net" target="_blank">ebiow@yasashi.net</a> (bcc) <a href="mailto:ejbiow@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ejbiow@yahoo.com</a><br>
>> (commercial)<br>
>>><br>
>>> IM (Instant Messaging, like text messaging but for computers)<br>
>>> (I recommend pidgin with the 'otr' encryption plugin as an instant<br>
>> message<br>
>>> client):<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:ejbiow@gmail.com" target="_blank">ejbiow@gmail.com</a> - <a href="mailto:ejbiow@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ejbiow@yahoo.com</a> - EdJBiow (AIM) - <a href="mailto:biow@riseup.net" target="_blank">biow@riseup.net</a> -<br>
>> often<br>
>>> "Gnudnik" on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Skype username: edmundbiow<br>
>>><br>
>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe to the lists for which I'm an administrator<br>
>> send<br>
>>> an email to the following:<br>
>>> Subscribe:<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:occupyoakland-subscribe@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank">occupyoakland-subscribe@lists.riseup.net</a><br>
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>>><br>
>>> Unsubscribe:<br>
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>>><br>
>>> Relatively secure EMAIL:<br>
>>><br>
>>> You can use a PGP key to encrypt and secure our messages. To start<br>
>> using<br>
>>> it, you'll need to install an OpenPGP software on your computer. Below<br>
>>> you'll find a list of possible solutions for your operating system:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Windoze: Kleopatra (<a href="http://gpg4win.de/download.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://gpg4win.de/download.html</a>)<br>
>>> OSX: GPG Keychain (<a href="https://gpgtools.org/#gpgsuite" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gpgtools.org/#gpgsuite</a>)<br>
>>> Linux: GnuPG (<a href="https://www.gnupg.org/related_software/frontends.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.gnupg.org/related_software/frontends.html</a>)<br>
>>> Android: OpenKeychain<br>
>>> (<br>
>> <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.sufficientlysecure.keychain" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.sufficientlysecure.keychain</a><br>
>> )<br>
>>> i(diot)OS: iPGMail (<br>
>> <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8</a>)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Once you set up PGP on your computer please import my public key into<br>
>> your<br>
>>> local OpenPGP Key-Manager. The valid PGP keys for my<br>
>> <a href="mailto:biow@cubasoldarity.net" target="_blank">biow@cubasoldarity.net</a> &<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:biow@riseup.net" target="_blank">biow@riseup.net</a> accounts can be downloaded<br>
>>> here: <a href="http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> An "easy" way to set up PGP on your computer is to download the free &<br>
>> open<br>
>>> sources Thunderbird email client (available on Linux, Windohs & O$X) &<br>
>>> install the EnigMail Add-On.<br>
>>> <a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/all.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/all.html</a><br>
>>> <a href="https://www.enigmail.net/download/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.enigmail.net/download/</a><br>
>>> <a href="https://www.enigmail.net/documentation/quickstart-ch1.php" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.enigmail.net/documentation/quickstart-ch1.php</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Looking forward to exchange snooping-free messages with you & making the<br>
>> NSA<br>
>>> spend mondo bucks to discover the secret of my bube's kartofel kugel<br>
>> recipe.<br>
>>> PGP Public Key for <a href="mailto:biow@riseup.net" target="_blank">biow@riseup.net</a>:<br>
>>><br>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----<br>
>>> Version: GnuPG v1<br>
>>><br>
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>>><br>
>>> Is god willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.<br>
>> Is he<br>
>>> able but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and<br>
>> willing?<br>
>>> Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call<br>
>> him<br>
>>> god? - Epicurus (341-270 BCE)<br>
>>><br>
>>> _-^--^=-_<br>
>>> _.-^^ -~_<br>
>>> _-- --_<br>
>>> < >)<br>
>>> | That's all, folks! |<br>
>>> \._ _./<br>
>>> ```--. . , ; .--'''<br>
>>> | | |<br>
>>> .-=|| | |=-.<br>
>>> `-=#$%&%$#=-'<br>
>>> | ; :|<br>
>>> _____.,-#%&$@%#&#~,._____<br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>><br>
></blockquote></div>