<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Thank you Jenny. Your information helped clarify things for me. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am definitely pro having a public computer terminal at Omni Commons overall.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In couple of other similar volunteer run community spaces I have been involved with, we had public computer terminals but would have continuous challenges with folks taking over the terminals and the computers not being very accessible by the wider community of participants & random visitors for occasional usage.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It is not major issue at the OC but there was a East Bay Food Not Bombs volunteer who may have been unhoused and needed to have access to email. They waited couple hours until there was a spot at the computer terminal available even though there are 4 computers I think (about 3 months ago.)</div><div dir="auto">Small example but I wonder if that was issue pre-COVID and might be post-COVID (?)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'll double check with North Oakland Mutual Aid volunteer who said they had uncomfortable interaction with Tom about intergalactic space families stuff with traditional gender roles (sounded like some kind of right wing version of Ursula le Guin ?!?)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Dane</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 20:42 Jenny Ryan <<a href="mailto:jenny@jennyryan.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jenny@jennyryan.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Also, while Sudo Room members may have set up this area in 2014,
the area is and has always been Commons and not Sudo Room's
'jurisdiction' (which is also by and large common space). The same
could be said for about every square foot of Omni, to be honest.
This is not an issue that can be shuffled onto a specific
collective - in particular one that doesn't really exist in full
anymore, primarily because the most involved members of Sudo Room
became rapidly subsumed by the larger Omni project pretty much off
the bat (and most of them have left or burnt out at this point).
If there are issues with particular users of the space, this needs
to be brought up with them directly and, failing that, brought
through our conflict resolution process.</p>
<p>Open to creative solutions, though, if anyone wants to suggest?<br>
</p>
<p>-Jenny<br>
</p>
<div>On 4/20/21 8:30 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<p>Hey Dane!</p>
<p>I appreciate the intention here, but I think it's a bit
complex. We could do away with the terminals entirely, but it
seems pretty shit to provide community space without public
terminals. Do you have any insights from your experiences in
other similar spaces that you could share?<br>
</p>
<p>I gave Phil a nice laptop about two years ago, but I think it
may have broken down and I can't recall the followup? Happy to
repair / replace - but iirc Phil rejected that offer when I made
it. I'll check back in.<br>
</p>
<p>Tom is special. I tend to be kind but avoidant.. have never
heard anyone complain of him being explicitly harmful nor
offensive. Never seen him harp on anyone who simply walks away.
Have you had experiences otherwise?<br>
</p>
<p>With love,</p>
<p>Jenny<br>
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<div>On 4/20/21 5:11 PM, Dane wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hey Sudo Room,
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I wonder if the "public" computer lab upstairs
could be repurposed. Still have computers but with possible
automatic time limits and no one privatizing that Commons
space.
<div dir="auto"><br>
<div dir="auto">Phil does great work keeping the OC good,
wonder if Sudo Room has laptop that Phil could borrow
when at the OC ? </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Tom does volunteer work at the OC but they
are very messy and like to talk to people about their
Intergalactic Space proposal often (?) </div>
<div dir="auto">...</div>
<div dir="auto">Not sure if Tom plans to start
Intergalactic Sex Cult (?!?) but Tom definitely is
trying to recruit specific people (wants to recruit "men
and women for Intergalactic space community" ??? (Not my
words.)</div>
<div dir="auto">Tom also misgenders a lot of LGBTQ &
Gender Non Conforming folks ! </div>
<div dir="auto">Ask North Oakland Mutual Aid folks ! )</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Weird shit etc.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">"Against Intergalactic Sex Cults: A
Genealogical Study of Sexual Hierarchy </div>
<div dir="auto">under Late Capitalism !"</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Dane</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 18:11
Jenny Ryan <<a href="mailto:tunabananas@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tunabananas@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">hey Ed,
<div dir="auto">I love you</div>
<div dir="auto">and Einstein- stay strong!!</div>
<div dir="auto"><3</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 12, 2021,
17:29 Ed Biow <<a href="mailto:biow@riseup.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">biow@riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>I thought the Omni was still officially closed,
especially to non-members.<br>
</p>
<p>I am a sudoroom room member and have maintained the
public computers and kept the software &
hardware going, but because of the plandemic &
my age & precarious health I've been too
shit-scared to go in the Omni for over a year.
However I got my second poke Thursday and should be
able to return by the end of the month. I'll do my
best to clean things up and make sure all the boxen
are in good shape. I also built a 6/12 core Ryzen 5
1600AF machine with 32GB of RAM that I planned to
give to Liberated Lens, but if they don't want it
and/or the rest of sudoroom thinks it might have a
home elsewhere I can drop it off, as well, or
perhaps something comparable. </p>
<p>My beloved 16 year-old Catahoula hound <a href="http://einsteinforoakland.org/index.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Einstein</a> has stopped
eating chicken and tuna and will only nibble dried
minnows & liver treats, so I suspect I will be
canid-free shortly; one of the reasons I didn't
spend enough time in the Omni was that my pup always
hated the place, so I'll probably come by at least
once a week while I am town starting May Day and
will endeavor to make sure things are slightly more
hygienic.<br>
</p>
<div>On 4/12/21 11:02 AM, Yardena Cohen wrote:<br>
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<pre>It's not part of sudoroom, but it's a problem. 2-3 men have claimed
that corner and dug themselves in. I think the best solution to that
problem is to add more people. Have regular structured events in which
new people can be encouraged to use the things. It feels harsh to say
"take a break and go somewhere else" when the immediate result would
be just an empty room. It's easier to say that when you have a group
of people who also want to use the computers.
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