i think the entrance to sudo/ccl should have a door before we bother putting a

card reader.



the door that had been there was removed, because it swung inwards, which is

unacceptable for an emergency exit.  The door needs to be re-installed with the

hinges swinging outward, so that in case an emergency happens in sudo/ccl

people can just flood outward.



after the door is installed that way, with a panic bar (not a regular doorknob)

we can install a card reader.



-jake



On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Maureen Muldavin wrote:



> If you are working on RFID cards any possibility that the entrance to

> sudo/ccl could get a card reader? Been wanting access control for

> awhile.

>

> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:

>> i brought in a wheelchair motor a while ago that I think could be made into

>> a

>> power door-opener pretty well.

>>

>> I can work on a proof-of-concept for that and then be able to show you what

>> I

>> mean, and then we can see if it will be good enough for our needs as opposed

>> to

>> spending $2800 on a "proper" door opener.

>>

>> as for the RFID cards, Alex and I have been working on implementing the card

>> reader thing for a little while and I think I can add it to the front door

>> pretty relatively easily.., and I guess i'll do that first, rather than

>> trying

>> to do a storage closet first?

>>

>> as always, if anyone wants to participate in this process they should

>> definitely jump in, otherwise it's subject to my chaotic schedule.

>>

>> technical questions about making this happen should be sent to the access

>> list

>> and possibly the sudoroom list, but probably not the building list as it

>> will

>> be a major distraction if we get into the weeds of microcontroller boards

>> and

>> door server code...

>>

>> also, yes I do have the box of RFID stuff you ordered and i've been working

>> on

>> it~

>>

>> -jake

>>

>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, David Keenan wrote:

>>

>>> Hi Jake / access control folks -

>>>

>>> So now that our front door is publicly labelled as accessible, we need to

>>> install an automatic door opener & remote button (kickplate & hand-height

>>> or a long bar) to make it legal.

>>>

>>> Reason I bring this up to you guys is, the opener system will need to

>>> integrate into our existing/future access control somehow. The quote I got

>>> is $2800 (50% parts, 50% labor) for a package including the Open Sesame

>>> Model 233 (brochure

>>> <http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/open_sesame_brochure.pdf>,

>>> spec

>>> sheet <http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/specs_model233.pdf>),

>>>

>>> made in San Leandro.

>>>

>>> Also, some of us met last week re: sketching out Omni's accessibility

>>> plan,

>>> and Yar suggested this might be a good time to also implement RFID system

>>> for the front door, if that was possible? In part because, proximity to an

>>> RFID fob is more accessible than a card swipe which (after thinking about

>>> it) I realized requires a pincing motion that is likely not ADA... because

>>> of the excessive door opening pressure and iffy slope on the front

>>> landing,

>>> we need an RFID & auto-opener.

>>>

>>> So -- I'm not sure if any more work has been done on the RFID systems I

>>> put

>>> in sudo a little while ago (stashed in under-stair storage area), might it

>>> be possible to integrate these into the door opener? I note in the

>>> brochure

>>> they offer a keypad access option - perhaps an opportunity for 2-factor

>>> authentication like Marc had talked about? Anyhow what do you guys think?

>>>

>>> I apologize for not helping y'all more with a better access control system

>>> (helping spaces post-ghostship consumed my bandwidth), but as there is now

>>> renewed pressure I want to help as I can. Would installing a trial

>>> RFID/throw on the Omni Office for example still be helpful towards getting

>>> this nailed down? Lmk

>>>

>>> Fwiw - I see the opener as pressing at this point not just 'cause its long

>>> overdue, but because every day our front door is labelled as accessible

>>> when it's technically not, is actually a not-insignificant liability issue

>>> (accessibility lawsuit). Plus of course, we are still under scrutiny by

>>> the

>>> city, nimby neighbors trying to call us out for bogus reasons, etc etc.

>>> And

>>> per building code the front door must be made fully accessible before any

>>> other accessibility work starts on the rest of the building - at some

>>> point

>>> an inspector's gonna notice since they all go through that door..anyhow.

>>>

>>> Let me know how myself & those of us working on accessibility might be

>>> able

>>> to help -

>>>

>>> Best,

>>> David

>>>

>>

>