On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Mon 21 Apr 2014 12:28:46 AM PDT, David Keenan wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/21/us/us-promotes-network-to-foil-digital-spying.html?hp&_r=0
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> lets apply for some of that USAID to fight spying at home?

This article is seriously disturbing. I didn't realize OTI was
promoting mesh networks as a secure alternative to the Internet. In the
Middle East. Maybe someone from the Commotion team is on this list and
wants to speak to the actual goals of the project and ways in which the
messaging around it could have been miscommunicated by the NYT?

“The technology is built from the ground up to be resistant to outside snooping,” Mr. Meinrath said...

I wonder what he was referring to. If he was referring to mesh networking as used by OTI as the article implies then he's either an idiot or an asshole.
 
I think it's really important we all understand and emphasize to new
folks that mesh networks are not by default more secure than other
kinds of networks, though they are more resilient. This is why we have
monthly cryptoparties at sudo, so we can teach good end-user security
hygiene. We can further level up by promoting the use of more
trustworthy services, such as Riseup for email and OwnCloud for
storage, on the mesh splash page or some such.

One bonus point for SudoWRT is that it uses wlan-slovenija's
tunneldigger, routing all connections on the public network through a
VPN. So actually, our mesh will be more anonymous (insofar as being
unable to pin an IP to a specific identity) than most networks.

Yes. Though it is so far less anonymous from inside the local mesh (we're working on this). Also, we should emphasize that this is not a good anonymity solution and that people should use Tor. For those who may be new to sudomesh: The only real purpose of the tunneldigger VPN is to make it much more likely that the mesh organization will be contacted about abuse complaints instead of the individual sharing their Internet connection.


 
We are also not funded by the State Dept.

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