Mitar,

Thanks for the feedback.

You should consider writing a blog post and maybe we can cross-post with sudo room / sudo mesh or something. I just wrote this recently in a similar vein of thought: http://existenceproof.net/zero-to-hackerspace-in-eight-steps/ and would enjoy seeing your version for mesh networks, I imagine somewhat based on the email you just sent.

I don't think my diagram is too inconsistent with your narrative. I think it's ambiguous and unclear, so I want to improve the diagram to make it reflect more of the important notions that you mentioned. For instance, there should be some disconnected nodes in the growing network, this way it's clear there is organic spread (maybe even call it "Organic Network Growth").

Second, perhaps one way to refactor the diagram is to create a parallel thread, so two columns: the first is the community growth, with a label for the stage in that community's development, the second is the network growth as a reflection on the community growing along with it.

This would be more comprehensive, but I'm worried if it makes the diagram too busy.

My goal, put succinctly for this diagram, is the most essential and basic notion necessary to convey to, for example, developers interested in Sudo Mesh, or folks just starting to organize a mesh network, seeking technical diagrams to accurately reflect the nature of a the network's development in line with WLAN-Slovenia and the sudo mesh history and plans.

It is not a "final" or "end-user" diagram that is the most accessible, just an accurate technical one that can be translated and incorporated into more user-friendly diagrams / propaganda / etc.

I will think more about this as well. What do folks think about the second "Social" development column?

// Matt

On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Mitar <mitar@tnode.com> wrote:

Hi!

Somewhere in there is also using mesh to cover temporary events, like
festivals and such.

Mitar

> Hi!
>
> I do not agree with it at all! :-)
>
> It never goes like this. You are mixing cause and consequence. It is not
> networks you are interested in, but people. So I would do a diagram
> where it would be:
>
> 1.) few individuals get interested in mesh
> 2.) they get together and start hack the technology
> 3.) they want to do something with it, they deploy few nodes where they
> have access to
> 4.) one of them is part of a community in need and uses the technology
> to address that need there, this is often the only place where there is
> real mesh for long time
> 5.) more people find the idea interesting, deploy satellite nodes (not
> really connected wirelessly)
> 6.) some of those nodes connect wirelessly, some of those nodes are
> deployed in the place where there is no Internet connectivity so a
> neighbor is sought to connect to
> 7.) you start experimenting with long distance links
> 8.) there is a community in rural areas in need
> 9.) you connect them with a long link, a mesh network starts there
> 10.) you start doing a backbone of long links everywhere, nodes which
> are not deployed randomly where people have interest, but are designed
> where it would be the best for the network as a whole
>
>
> Mitar
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Realized there was a missing third in the series of basic technical
>> diagrams that capture the essential elements of the network:
>>
>> How does the network start and grow?
>>
>> Attached is a first draft of this diagram, please send comments!
>>
>>
>>
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