On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Will Martin <williamjosephmartin@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey guys I'm battling a cold right now and I don't want to get you all sick so I'm going to skip the Sunday node mounting today. Are you all planning to meet later this week? Hopefully I'll be back to normal by then.
Will Martin

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1. Re: q's for next general meeting (April Glaser)
2. Re: q's for next general meeting (max b)

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 12:15:36 -0800
From: April Glaser <april.glaser@riseup.net>
To: max b <maxb.personal@gmail.com>
Cc: "mesh@lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [Mesh] q's for next general meeting
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hi max!

hope you're having a warm, relaxing, and productive break - wherever you
are.

here are our notes from our meeting yesterday:
https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudomesh
i incorporated your comments.

we have a heavy to-do list but they are all pretty light lifts. we'll
likely not meet this thrusday b/c it's a rare holiday. but we are
meeting at Omni on Sunday at 2p to climb someone's roof.

summary:
-we are focusing on funding and listing/reaching out to uplink options
-we will have a 2 day small retreat for regulars soon to map goals and
make firmware progress and apply for grants
-we want to start mounting antennas, maybe every sunday?
-landlord is not cool with drilling into the Omni roof. marc proposed
using sandbags.

more soon,
april

On 12/30/14 1:12 PM, max b wrote:
> Hi April,
>
> Super glad that you're revisiting the docs!
>
> I'm currently out of town for a little while, but hoping to ramp up
> some dev work from here (turns out parent's houses are good
> distraction-free zones...)
>
> i'm dim about what our next goals are and who/where we want to
> outreach to about mounting a router.
>
>
> I would say that there are a few groups of people:
> - The most important folks would be anyone who can provide us with an
> internet uplink. It would probably also require us to be able to
> install a little gear on their roof or somehow otherwise transmit that
> bandwidth to a remote location.
>
> - The second most important group would be anyone who has access to a
> high point, whether that be a roof with good line of sight around
> them, someone with a radio tower, someone living in the hills, etc.
>
> - The last group would be anyone who would want to host one of the
> "indoor" nodes. We haven't generally had any problems finding these
> folks in the past. ALSO, the firmware for these devices had to be
> re-vamped and is not yet finished (hopefully what I'll be doing while
> I'm here....)
>
>
> i'd like to request that at our next thurs meeting we spend the
> first hour:
> -answering a few questions,
> -looking at our existing outreach list
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OxG6s1NFAEd9dasX5-Hdrz4jR6IWk9CkQTDDhIaZhhk/edit#gid=0>,
> -prioritize it, and
> -list what materials we need to update/create to bring our
> outreach partners a solid proposal.
>
>
> I absolutely agree, although I won't be there. If it looks like there
> are specific questions or whatever that I can answer I can try to be
> on IRC or etherpad for the meeting.
>
>
> also, does anyone here know what parts of the wiki need some love?
> (we can also list the outdated pages this thurs in 2015)
>
>
> From my perspective, the parts that need the most love are
> documentation of our current progress and status. This also coincides
> with our lack of a project management framework. I know that folks
> don't really like being cornered into using tools they don't like, but
> we're all a little fuzzy about who is actually working on what and
> when. I've looked some various projects and I'm thinking about setting
> up a test installation of https://github.com/malclocke/fulcrum
>
> As for the wiki, the following pages are pretty out of date and don't
> reflect much current content:
> - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Firmware
> This is largely my fault, but reflects on the difficulty in
> visualizing where exactly we are with ongoing development and what is
> left to do
>
> - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/ToDos
> This also largely reflects on the difficulty in visualizing where
> exactly we are with ongoing work. It might be a good start to figure
> out where exactly we are and what we want to do and articulate this here
>
> - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Funding
> I'm starting to think more and more that we're going to need to really
> start generating more income. We certainly have a good start, but I
> think that if we ever want to create the kind of service we're hoping
> to then we'll need some more cash (maybe even enough to pay some
> staff?). This page is already nicely compiled, but we might want to
> dive a little deeper to see if we can actually seize on any of them.
>
>
> Other people might have other opinions about pages that need work, but
> that's what I've got for the moment...
>
>
> Hopefully some of that is useful.
>
> Max
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 6:09 PM, April Glaser <april.glaser@riseup.net
> <mailto:april.glaser@riseup.net>> wrote:
>
> hi all,
>
> i have a few questions as i attempt to update the wiki, add a new
> blogpost (maybe pen an article for an outside publication on the
> project), and update an outreach plan.
>
> but i'm dim about what our next goals are and who/where we want to
> outreach to about mounting a router.
>
> i'd like to request that at our next thurs meeting we spend the
> first hour:
>
> -answering a few questions,
> -looking at our existing outreach list
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OxG6s1NFAEd9dasX5-Hdrz4jR6IWk9CkQTDDhIaZhhk/edit#gid=0>,
>
> -prioritize it, and
> -list what materials we need to update/create to bring our
> outreach partners a solid proposal.
>
> would folks mind doing that? i'll gladly facilitate to help keep
> us on point and to the point :) i'll also take notes and add the
> ether pad to the wiki. this will help me to dig in and hack on our
> community organizing moving forward.
>
> also, does anyone here know what parts of the wiki need some love?
> (we can also list the outdated pages this thurs in 2015)
>
> excelsior,
> april
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 13:24:43 -0700
From: max b <maxb.personal@gmail.com>
To: April Glaser <april.glaser@riseup.net>
Cc: "mesh@lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [Mesh] q's for next general meeting
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Hehehehe well I'm in Colorado and the high yesterday was 3 degrees F, but
otherwise it's been good.

Just on the point of drilling vs sandbags for roof installation, here is
what a LMI installation looks like at an office building in Berkeley:
[image: Inline image 1]

So it looks like they might just be making use of a bunch of mortar blocks.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:15 PM, April Glaser <april.glaser@riseup.net>
wrote:

> hi max!
>
> hope you're having a warm, relaxing, and productive break - wherever you
> are.
>
> here are our notes from our meeting yesterday:
> https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudomesh
> i incorporated your comments.
>
> we have a heavy to-do list but they are all pretty light lifts. we'll
> likely not meet this thrusday b/c it's a rare holiday. but we are meeting
> at Omni on Sunday at 2p to climb someone's roof.
>
> summary:
> -we are focusing on funding and listing/reaching out to uplink options
> -we will have a 2 day small retreat for regulars soon to map goals and
> make firmware progress and apply for grants
> -we want to start mounting antennas, maybe every sunday?
> -landlord is not cool with drilling into the Omni roof. marc proposed
> using sandbags.
>
> more soon,
> april
>
>
> On 12/30/14 1:12 PM, max b wrote:
>
> Hi April,
>
> Super glad that you're revisiting the docs!
>
> I'm currently out of town for a little while, but hoping to ramp up some
> dev work from here (turns out parent's houses are good distraction-free
> zones...)
>
> i'm dim about what our next goals are and who/where we want to outreach
>> to about mounting a router.
>
>
> I would say that there are a few groups of people:
> - The most important folks would be anyone who can provide us with an
> internet uplink. It would probably also require us to be able to install a
> little gear on their roof or somehow otherwise transmit that bandwidth to a
> remote location.
>
> - The second most important group would be anyone who has access to a
> high point, whether that be a roof with good line of sight around them,
> someone with a radio tower, someone living in the hills, etc.
>
> - The last group would be anyone who would want to host one of the
> "indoor" nodes. We haven't generally had any problems finding these folks
> in the past. ALSO, the firmware for these devices had to be re-vamped and
> is not yet finished (hopefully what I'll be doing while I'm here....)
>
>
>> i'd like to request that at our next thurs meeting we spend the first
>> hour:
>> -answering a few questions,
>> -looking at our existing outreach list
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OxG6s1NFAEd9dasX5-Hdrz4jR6IWk9CkQTDDhIaZhhk/edit#gid=0>
>> ,
>> -prioritize it, and
>> -list what materials we need to update/create to bring our outreach
>> partners a solid proposal.
>
>
> I absolutely agree, although I won't be there. If it looks like there
> are specific questions or whatever that I can answer I can try to be on IRC
> or etherpad for the meeting.
>
>
> also, does anyone here know what parts of the wiki need some love? (we
>> can also list the outdated pages this thurs in 2015)
>
>
> From my perspective, the parts that need the most love are documentation
> of our current progress and status. This also coincides with our lack of a
> project management framework. I know that folks don't really like being
> cornered into using tools they don't like, but we're all a little fuzzy
> about who is actually working on what and when. I've looked some various
> projects and I'm thinking about setting up a test installation of
> https://github.com/malclocke/fulcrum
>
> As for the wiki, the following pages are pretty out of date and don't
> reflect much current content:
> - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Firmware
> This is largely my fault, but reflects on the difficulty in visualizing
> where exactly we are with ongoing development and what is left to do
>
> - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/ToDos
> This also largely reflects on the difficulty in visualizing where exactly
> we are with ongoing work. It might be a good start to figure out where
> exactly we are and what we want to do and articulate this here
>
> - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Funding
> I'm starting to think more and more that we're going to need to really
> start generating more income. We certainly have a good start, but I think
> that if we ever want to create the kind of service we're hoping to then
> we'll need some more cash (maybe even enough to pay some staff?). This page
> is already nicely compiled, but we might want to dive a little deeper to
> see if we can actually seize on any of them.
>
>
> Other people might have other opinions about pages that need work, but
> that's what I've got for the moment...
>
>
> Hopefully some of that is useful.
>
> Max
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 6:09 PM, April Glaser <april.glaser@riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>> hi all,
>>
>> i have a few questions as i attempt to update the wiki, add a new
>> blogpost (maybe pen an article for an outside publication on the project),
>> and update an outreach plan.
>>
>> but i'm dim about what our next goals are and who/where we want to
>> outreach to about mounting a router.
>>
>> i'd like to request that at our next thurs meeting we spend the first
>> hour:
>>
>> -answering a few questions,
>> -looking at our existing outreach list
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OxG6s1NFAEd9dasX5-Hdrz4jR6IWk9CkQTDDhIaZhhk/edit#gid=0>,
>>
>> -prioritize it, and
>> -list what materials we need to update/create to bring our outreach
>> partners a solid proposal.
>>
>> would folks mind doing that? i'll gladly facilitate to help keep us on
>> point and to the point :) i'll also take notes and add the ether pad to the
>> wiki. this will help me to dig in and hack on our community organizing
>> moving forward.
>>
>> also, does anyone here know what parts of the wiki need some love? (we
>> can also list the outdated pages this thurs in 2015)
>>
>> excelsior,
>> april
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> mesh mailing list
>> mesh@lists.sudoroom.org
>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/mesh
>>
>>
>
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