Nothing surprising about the fact that the Cable industry is taking advantage of the commons (unregulated spectrum) to increase the value of their privately owned assets. But it's probably a good idea for us to pay attention to what they're doing, as it will have a lot of implications for how people connect to wireless networks in the future. Specifically, Cable is investing heavily in the Hotspot 2.0 standard (802.11u). Hotspot 2.0 creates a cellular-roaming like experience on mobile devices, allowing the process of selecting appropriate networks and providing necessary credentials to happen in the background, without any input from users. Pretty soon (1-2 years away I'd guess), Cable companies will likely become an MVNO and their customers phones will automatically connect to any Cable wifi hotspot.

This isn't something we need to think about right now, but it's definitely worth keeping an eye on. If the 802.11u standard gets widely adopted, it'll change the way the average person connects to WiFi networks. If you want to learn more about Hotspot 2.0, here's a good article about it:
http://www.muniwireless.com/2013/12/02/cashing-in-on-hotspot-2-0/


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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:18:26 -0800
From: Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Dudley <trd3r@virginia.edu>
Cc: "mesh@lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [Mesh] Comcast public wifi
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Interesting topic, and well written article -- thanks much for sharing,
Thomas!

I think the kind of language the reporter uses here is a good example of
how to effectively talk to a general audience about mesh and related
concepts...

Pete

www.wikistrategies.net/pete-forsyth


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Thomas Dudley <trd3r@virginia.edu> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I've been lurking on this list for little a while - I love the progress
> you're making! I ran across this article recently which I thought you'd
> find interesting. Classic monopoly behavior (bundling) from Comcast:
>
>
> http://www.dailydemocrat.com/business/ci_25059667/dont-panic-but-that-public-wi-fi-comes
> ?
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> Best,
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:03:48 -0800
From: Chris Jefferies <chris@freeranger.com>
To: Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com>
Cc: "mesh@lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [Mesh] Comcast public wifi
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I was scanning my neighborhood near El Cerrito and Kensington and found
about 8 "xfinitywifi" SSIDs.





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Chris Jefferies
(510) 409-0003 - mobile



On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting topic, and well written article -- thanks much for sharing,
> Thomas!
>
> I think the kind of language the reporter uses here is a good example of
> how to effectively talk to a general audience about mesh and related
> concepts...
>
> Pete
>
> www.wikistrategies.net/pete-forsyth
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Thomas Dudley <trd3r@virginia.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I've been lurking on this list for little a while - I love the progress
>> you're making! I ran across this article recently which I thought you'd
>> find interesting. Classic monopoly behavior (bundling) from Comcast:
>>
>>
>> http://www.dailydemocrat.com/business/ci_25059667/dont-panic-but-that-public-wi-fi-comes
>> ?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Thomas
>>
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 00:07:14 +0000 (UTC)
From: Hol Gaskill <hol@gaskill.com>
To: chris@freeranger.com
Cc: mesh@lists.sudoroom.org
Subject: Re: [Mesh] Comcast public wifi
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didn't get a chance to read the article, but I've heard chatter about broadcasting from subscribers' wifi-equipped modems.  the nerve.


Feb 5, 2014 04:04:13 PM, chris@freeranger.com wrote:
I was scanning my neighborhood near El Cerrito and Kensington and found about 8 "xfinitywifi" SSIDs.
>
>
>
>


>
>--
>Chris Jefferies
>(510) 409-0003 - mobile
>
>

>
>On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Pete Forsyth peteforsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>

Interesting topic, and well written article -- thanks much for sharing, Thomas!
>
>I think the kind of language the reporter uses here is a good example of how to effectively talk to a general audience about mesh and related concepts...
>



>Pete
>
>www.wikistrategies.net/pete-forsyth
>
>
>

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Thomas Dudley trd3r@virginia.edu> wrote:
>

>Hey all,
>
>I've been lurking on this list for little a while - I love the progress you're making! I ran across this article recently which I thought you'd find interesting. Classic monopoly behavior (bundling) from Comcast:
>




>http://www.dailydemocrat.com/business/ci_25059667/dont-panic-but-that-public-wi-fi-comes?
>
>


Best,
>
>
Thomas
>

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