I will certainly be talking with them, and will see what their plans are for the site :) Met a lot of hackers last night, including one of the original developers of batman, but no one working on Freifunk. Looking forward to heading to cbase later on and will be seeking meshfolks. 

Regardless, I will still be using the site initially to coordinate the community asset map we'll be creating at the Summit and would love any suggestions toward this end. By 'community asset map' I mean to map out available tools / resources / expertise among various networks and needs each network has that could be met through collaboration. This is what we are trying to tackle with Mycelia, a project Marc and I have been working on intermittently over the past two years. 

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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Mitar <mitar@tnode.com> wrote:
Hi!

So, maybe you should talk with people behind the freifunk.net site and
see what is their vision is? Probably they are just around the corner. :-)

As I said, there could be two domain names pointing to the same page,
meshthepla.net having different theme and different (English) locale.


Mitar

> Mitar and all,
>
> The idea with meshthepla.net is to create a campaign site that is agnostic
> toward any particular network. Freifunk.net by and large points to and
> promotes itself, which is really all the argument needed.
>
> Also, I'm intending to use the site for documenting the workshop I'll be
> leading at the wireless summit, one output of which is a global community
> asset map of free networks and a communications framework for continuing
> the conversation. :)
>
> I do like the Freifunk site a lot and am hoping I can grok more of it after
> spending a few weeks immersed in German!
> On Sep 25, 2013 6:53 AM, "Mitar" <mitar@tnode.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>>> As far as global directories, I don't see any reason for freifunk to be
>> the
>>> only front end for all this open data - in part because "freifunk" is a
>>> much better name for german speakers than for everyone else.  As long as
>> we
>>> are dealing with open data and open source, it shouldn't be a problem for
>>> motivated folks to throw up their own translated/localized version,
>>> experiment with visualizations, etc. if they want to
>>
>> Yes. So providing your own interface to the same API is probably
>> reasonable. But I got a feeling that Marc was arguing for doing some
>> other API and another directory?
>>
>> Of course another idea could be that we just translate freifunk.net
>> webpage, point meshtheplanet.net to that site and make so that when it
>> is visited through meshtheplanet.net, an English version (with whatever
>> logo) appears. And if we want some additional feature, we extend current
>> website with it and both freifunk.net and meshtheplanet.net then have
>> it. This is open source as well. Don't fork if not necessary. Have you
>> tried to contribute to freifunk.net? Was it proven to be impossible?
>> That they didn't accept your contributions with your translations and
>> visualizations? If not, why fork?
>>
>>
>> Mitar
>>
>>>
>>> --mark B.
>>> On Sep 24, 2013 6:47 PM, "Mitar" <mitar@tnode.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>>> That site is completely freifunk-specific.
>>>>
>>>> Because it is starting from there.
>>>>
>>>> I am probably biased though. :-) But in the past they had already a nice
>>>> planet (blog aggregator) and I know few networks (including wlan
>>>> slovenija) who were part of that. So I don't have a feeling it is just
>>>> freifunk specific.
>>>>
>>>>> Site appears to be in german only.
>>>>
>>>> Currently. This is called international diversity. :-)
>>>>
>>>>> No easy way to add your own community to the mesh (need to use an
>>>>> api).
>>>>
>>>> Pull request against:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://github.com/freifunk/api.freifunk.net/blob/master/directory/directory.json
>>>>
>>>> What is easier?
>>>>
>>>>> No info on the different meshes except for a link.
>>>>
>>>> Have you checked the schema?
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/freifunk/api.freifunk.net/blob/master/specs/0.1.json
>>>>
>>>> And of course, schema can be worked on by communities.
>>>>
>>>>> This does not even seem to be an attempt at a global community site.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting, I got a feeling that they are trying to be. They were eager
>>>> to translate into English the GitHub README, once I told them that this
>>>> would help others. :-)
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, but maybe forking hackerspaces.org would be better.
>>>>
>>>> As you want. I am just saying that some people are already working on
>>>> that and that it is really hard to maintain such lists. I know because I
>>>> tried one:
>>>>
>>>> http://interop.wlan-si.net/
>>>>
>>>> There is then simply:
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wireless_community_networks_by_region
>>>>
>>>> Which was viewed by many as good enough.
>>>>
>>>> And now freifunk is trying to improve on situation. So making a site
>>>> which uses the same API and same directory is probably reasonable. But
>>>> doing one new directory is probably not. Because the question is who
>>>> will maintain that directory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mitar
>>>>
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