On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Ryan <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:
This was well before they were taking a hiatus, unfortunately. But if they're not going to be open for a significant amount of time, I think it's reasonable to just find a space and if they decide it's not functional when they open, we can reevaluate from there.I'm also concerned about folks using the computer if it's available, rather than going upstairs, but I'm just really concerned about walking folks who can't go upstairs.On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:58 PM, max b <maxb.personal@gmail.com> wrote:We don't have a ton of laptops. We have a ton of netbooks. While that wouldn't be a problem in most cases for something like this, the smaller keyboard would be problematic for some users with mobility or coordination issues.Ok gotcha. We do have a handful of usb keyboards that we could set up to stay connected to one of the netbooks. Or we could use the laptop that Uprising has mentioned they're going to bring over.I think that Lubuntu probably has the same accesibility features, but I'll double check.In the past, I've had trouble getting La Commune to get back at all about public terminals, which is why I'm frustrated and done trying to deal with them.Yeah and it does seem like they're taking a "hiatus". Perhaps we could just move forward with what we see as a decent plan and assume that we'll all be ok with eachother moving forwards in good faith.The average desk/table is about the right height for a wheelchair user, so I'm confused as to why we'd need to have it brought down or use a standing desk.The only reason that Daniel and I were considering a folding down option was to discourage folks from using it as a default instead of walking upstairs to the terminals. It seems that people are sometimes drawn to the closest monitor, and so they might be just immediately drawn to a computer setup in La Commune. But just a thought.On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Ryan <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:We don't have a ton of laptops. We have a ton of netbooks. While that wouldn't be a problem in most cases for something like this, the smaller keyboard would be problematic for some users with mobility or coordination issues.In the past, I've had trouble getting La Commune to get back at all about public terminals, which is why I'm frustrated and done trying to deal with them.I know stock Ubuntu has most necessary accessibility software. I don't know if lubuntu would. I assume so. I might want to look into it more deeply.On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 4:03 PM, max b <maxb.personal@gmail.com> wrote:Daniel and I were talking about maybe some sort of appropriate height desk which would be able to fold down and then up and that would have a laptop just permanently mounted to it. The somewhat obscurity of it paired with some signage mentioning that there are plenty of terminals upstairs and to please reserve this for folks who wouldn't otherwise be able to access the other terminals.We have a ton of laptops btw - they're in storage under the stairs in omni. Most of them need keyboard replacements (like $15 I think), but some of them I believe are good to go. Just need someone to set up a mini station. I would imagine it should be cleared with the La Commune folks, although I have a feeling they'd be on board.I don't have a ton of cycles to build anything like that, but I'm wondering if there's a stopgap solution that we could use - maybe just hide one of the laptops somewhere around the La Commune Desk with a notice on it? Would one of the netbooks with stock lubuntu installed on it be ok?Ryan, do you have any particular preferences for next steps?Also - I'm not super familiar with any other accessibility software, but if someone pointed me in the right direction, I think it's probably a good idea for all of our terminals to have a base set installed.MaxOn Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Ryan <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:That would be so amazing. Thank you so much.If you could put a note on it saying that it's for accessible public use so it doesn't immediately disappear into a project, that would be rad.On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Uprising <hassanfathi@sbcglobal.net> wrote:Guys,I will dropping a laptop today around 6:PM it can be used the way you guys feel like it.Thanks
Sent from my iPhoneI haven't. :/ Maybe it would be better if it were a laptop that's somehow secured somewhere but can be put away, so it doesn't take up space when not being used by someone who needs it.On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:08 PM, danarauz@gmail.com <danarauz@gmail.com> wrote:Makes sense, Ryan.So, have you found a place where we should work on?Or/and, would you like me to see if I can set the computer you were using (or another) below the desk as I mentioned it to you, so that the display its a better eye level?On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Ryan <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:I don't think they should be near the entrance. If they are, they will get used instead of the ones upstairs... meaning folks who need an accessible computer won't be able to use it. Even if we put that they're reserved for people with disabilities, they'll get used first. I guarantee it.On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:31 PM, danarauz@gmail.com <danarauz@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you Jenny, but the credit goes to everyone who organically participated; from building the tables and onto the final result.Ryan, I think the ideal would be to have one or two workstations near the entrance; but if not possible, then Jenny's idea sounds the best, imho.
What do you think?On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Ryan <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:Good to know!Every time I've come by, it just seems like more and more have accumulated over time. This just felt like critical mass, I guess. Maybe my timing has just been weird.--On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:that's an unusual situation, brought on by some hacker not putting away whatever they were playing with. usually it's just the imac and a big monitor.
-jake
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
Oh, no, there were 6 monitors over on these tables, not including the macs!
Made the space really unusable for hacking.
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Kelly Peng <ziqikelly@gmail.com> wrote:
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for hacking, instead of for facebook/email. Ryan, the 2 Mac and
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Ryan <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:
If they are for hacking, I would suggest they not be used
for monitor storage. I'd move them myself, if I could
On Jul 13, 2015 1:35 PM, "Jake" <jake@spaz.org> wrote:
those desks in sudoroom are for hacking, not
for public facebook and email checking -
that's why we put the public terminals outside
sudoroom.
i agree that there should be ground-floor
accessible public terminals, but not in
sudoroom (any more than there already are)
-jake
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
Sitting where the Mac is in sudo,
I'm thinking these tables might be
awesome for more "public use" and
less "using the computers tied to
other devices." I'd leave a
bit of space, to make sure people
have room for crafty-type stuff
but there's tons of monitors
sitting here anyway... I'll bring
it up on Wednesday.
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:11 AM,
danarauz@gmail.com
<danarauz@gmail.com> wrote:
That sounds to me;
thanks! And, when you get
something ready, I would try to
leave early from work and meet you
then.
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:01 PM,
Ryan <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I can try and do that
on Monday!
Weekends can be tough for me right
now because I'm only supposed to
leave the house 2-3 days a week a
la my physical therapist. But I'll
get in touch
after Monday and see what I can
find.
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:30 PM,
danarauz@gmail.com
<danarauz@gmail.com> wrote:
Weekends are much easier for
me to meet you; but if needed,
weekdays evening is the other
option.
Anyhow, would you want to go ahead
and take care of finding the area
and of getting the okay from the
corresponding collective? Then we
can deal
with the rest of the deets:
tables, and materials, etc.
Thanks Ryan!
Daniel
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:41 PM,
Ryan <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:
Sure! I'll be in sudo by 2
tomorrow, and while I'm meeting
someone there to show her how to
use the laser cutter, I'm sure
I'll have
time to help on this as
well!
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:25 PM,
danarauz@gmail.com
<danarauz@gmail.com> wrote:
Accessibility. Good point
Ryan.
Would you like to work with me and
see if we can set up accessible
computers at the first floor?
Thanks, and let me know,
Daniel
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:42 PM,
Ryan <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:
Would be really cool if we
could get some accessible stations
for the public, rather than
continuing to put them upstairs.
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:15 PM,
danarauz@gmail.com
<danarauz@gmail.com> wrote:
Hellos,
Good News!
We now have a total of 10 new data
drops at the second floor where
the computers for the public are.
Four computers are already setup
and ready to use. The other six
are already active, so it is
matter of bringing more
computers to the table and set
them up.
The second one from the left was
not booting up, and since I had a
bootable USB with Debian 8 with
me; well.. I installed
Debian on it. User name: user
Password: user Root's password:
user -Feel free to modify that if
one wish or if it
required. I just wanted to have it
running at least.
I removed all the extra
unnecessary and/or unsafe
equipment that was there on that
table.
Excuse me that it was brought down
to one of the tables at Sudo, but
I was too exhausted that I just
wanted to go home.
ALERTS:
DNS: At the time that I left the
building, 5pm, there were some DNS
issues. DNS was not resolving.
Pinging Google's DNS IP 8.8.8.8
worked, but not when trying the
domain name. The issue seemed
intermittent.
BANDWIDTH: Also, I ran a few speed
tests and they area about 20Mbps /
1.5Mbps.
Thanks Hassan, Sierk, and
Francisco for your help during
these three days of work.
Daniel
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