Pete - Had Charles proposed collaborating with us in applying for the grant, then this would fit into the model you're describing. However, having both of our orgs apply for the same single grant is effectively directly competing with us for the same pot, since we're both working on similar projects. And, since we're a newer project and have yet to deploy any nodes, FNF is considerably more likely to win it.

I of course support open submissions and reporting, hence my creation of this wiki page on the sudoroom wiki.

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On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
I tend to agree with Charles -- using an open process to apply for grants has its benefits. (Not to say there aren't drawbacks as well -- it's a judgment call.) But, for some interesting reading, I'd point out the relevant policy of the OER Foundation:
and the Wikimedia grants program also requires open submissions and reporting:
-Pete



On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Charles N Wyble <charles@thefnf.org> wrote:
Why should they be kept off list? It was a good grant and FNF is just as capable and valid to apply for it.

Plus if it was on boing boing it's public.

Very curious behavior.

Jenny Ryan <tunabananas@gmail.com> wrote:
>It would seem we should maybe keep funding opportunities off-list
>(private
>email or at meetings), but thanks for the heads up, Ryan!
>On Dec 4, 2013 1:18 PM, "Charles N Wyble" <charles@knownelement.com>
>wrote:
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>> Should we apply for this?
>>
>>
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>> Via BoingBoing, a $10k technology
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>grant<http://www.tides.org/impact/awards-prizes/pizzigati-prize/>(proposal
>> due friday)
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