From jcadle@pm.me Tue Aug  1 22:40:24 2023
From: Jonathan Cadle <jcadle@pm.me>
To: sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: Laptop De-Branding?
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2023 22:40:07 +0000
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The process might be slightly easier if it=E2=80=99s feasible to migrate the =
schools to mainstream Linux (you would at least avoid the labor of forking Ch=
romeOS), but that would involve research into what software and tools the sch=
ools are relying on that can be replicated outside of ChromeOS.

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On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:25 PM, Yardena Cohen via sudo-discuss <[sudo-discuss=
(a)sudoroom.org](mailto:On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:25 PM, Yardena Cohen via sud=
o-discuss <<a href=3D)> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 5:07=E2=80=AFPM Anca Mosoiu via sudo-discuss
> <sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
>> Are these flashing tools that can help upgrade soon-to-be EOL'd Chromebook=
 hardware? I read this article today about how something like 40,000 computer=
s at OUSD are going to "expire" because Google doesn't want to support the ha=
rdware w/ their ChromeOS.
>>
>> Could they be updated w/ a secure Linux version?
>
> Sure, there's no technical reason why not, but I think it would take a
> full time team to get that many in a usable state. If schools across
> California are trying to avoid spending $225M on new devices, that is
> a business opportunity for whoever can develop a process for it. You
> would need at least:
>
> * People to create & maintain working builds of chromiumOS or a fork,
> and automate that
> * People to interface with all the school districts about their
> particular needs, and communicate back
> * People to actively develop all the software components to keep them
> "up to par"
> * People to flash firmwares all day
>
> Tragically, it seems like someone did exactly this in 2015, had some
> mild growth and success, and then Google bought them out. All their
> devs "joined the main chromeOS team" and of course now their only job
> is to make Google money and we're back to square one
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverware
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