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So, a move is a pretty big step. Have there been any other issues with
the landlord? I do agree that gender sensitivity is important, and yet
if there aren't any other complaints, I wonder if it's something we
could work out with him.

On 4/23/13 5:17 PM, William Budington wrote:
> We should bring this up with The Public School as well, and see if
> they might be willing to move with us.  I'm sure the situation with
> George is troublesome for them, too.
>
> Bill
>
> On 04/23/2013 05:01 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
>> This looks like an amazing opportunity. Nice catch, Ray!
>>
>> I just sent them an email on behalf of sudo room, asking if we
>> could set up a time to tour the space, meet the landlord, and
>> discuss compatibility.
>>
>> We're currently paying $2/sqft, so this could be ideal. Marc has
>> also been looking into potential spaces that are zoned for bio
>> research.
>>
>> Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org
>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>
>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire
>> around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson
>>
>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
>> defining it." -Hannah Arendt
>>
>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane
>> Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Andrew
>> <andrew@roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> WANT! Ray, can you email them?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ray Lai
>>> <raymond.wm.lai@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Disable our leaving the space, George!
>>>>
>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3734928687.html
>>>>
>>>> Franklin at 19th!
>>>>
>>>> $1500 for 1100 square feet. Also in the classy building is a
>>>> whole floor 4200 square feet at .95/sq ft. Perhaps we can
>>>> inquire about part of the larger floor or arrange to share it
>>>> with Sudoers who need office space (RoShamBo, Atomic, et
>>>> al).
>>>>
>>>> Sudo room is its esteemed, talented, brilliant and diverse
>>>> members; not the space we chose to rent.
>>>>
>>>> Land lords are reptiles.
>>>>
>>>> Hack the marketplace!
>>>>
>>>> Raymond Lai Ice Cream Man Atomic Ice Cream
>>>> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrew
>>>> <andrew@roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's very difficult to have a landlord with no clear
>>>> boundaries. I get the feeling we are not the kind of tenants
>>>> he wants to be working with, or is capable of working with. I
>>>> have my own share of George stories.
>>>>
>>>> If we want to stay in the space, I would suggest that we be
>>>> proactive in getting him  to modify the lease so that we can
>>>> all be on the same page with expectations. I think it's also
>>>> fair to say that we've pushed pretty hard on him as well with
>>>> what his expectation may have been for us, for example having
>>>> large events in the common area is no in the lease as far as
>>>> I know, but he has allowed it to happen, but because we don't
>>>> have an actual agreement hes coming back with arbitrary
>>>> enforcement of arbitrary rules.
>>>>
>>>> so we either:
>>>>
>>>> 1. move
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> 2. make sure that our expectations from and for the landlord
>>>> are in writing
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> 3. Continue to take his arbitrary rants at random members of
>>>> sudo room, and just placate (or ignore) him as much as
>>>> possible (what we are already doing).
>>>>
>>>> --Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Gregg Horton
>>>> <greggahorton@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then how is SR going to make a safe non-abusive space with
>>>>> this guy as landlord?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Yardena Cohen
>>>>> <yardenack@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Romy Ilano
>>>>>> <romy@snowyla.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> - Could we have a rule of SudoRoom members not
>>>>>>> interacting with him?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who is this rule for? Do you appreciate the actual
>>>>>> problem? He literally has a habit of going up to people
>>>>>> using the bathroom and yelling at them through the door.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want SR to move either.
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