Hmm, a civil lawsuit against the perp... hmm...!   Very interesting, I'll ask around...  but we have to catch the guy first.  The idea of going for civil damages for the "oh shit I'm about to get shot and die" factor, is worth pursuing. 

Methinks the building owners next door are already friendly about providing videos, because they have the same interests as we do, in not having their tenants robbed at gunpoint.  This also from previous experience when Sam got his car broken into.  It's all of us together, against the predators. 

OK, to sleep now, finally...

-G.



On 13-06-01-Sat 11:11 AM, johanna faust wrote:
"if there is any problem at all getting the videos, then:

California has very good civil discovery laws.  In civil discovery you can ask for just about anything that might lead to evidence.  surveillance video is very easy to ask for and get.  if you ask for it, they have to come across with it: subpoena duces tecum.  when you require a third party to produce things.

in other words, file a civil lawsuit against the perps and you can make them give it up; you have the wherewithal backed by the courts to get the video."

the preceding was advice given by a dear friend of mine.  it is of course not official legal advice, which can only come from your lawyer.



On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:03 AM, johanna faust <female.faust@gmail.com> wrote:
as far as i know, contact building owners and have police report.

NOTE:  
GET THEM ASAP 
some may be on a 24 or 48 hr loop

On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss@gmail.com> wrote:
You didn't do anything wrong. You should be able to be outside when you want. Scurrying inside at the sight of a stranger is no kind of life. I don't blame you for not going in. 


On Saturday, June 1, 2013, GtwoG PublicOhOne wrote:

YOs-

James and I got robbed at gunpoint, right outside the side entrance, at about 2:45AM on Saturday 01 June.   Nothing like thinking that you & a friend are about to die, to screw up an otherwise great night. 

No injuries, just terror.  The guy wanted our cellphones.  Lucky us, I don't have one and James had left his upstairs.  He got our wallets.  It could have been worse, he could have killed both of us.

OK, time for the kick-myself-in-the-arse maneuver, for not having gone inside the moment we saw an unknown guy walking down the street toward us late at night.  I should know better, hell I _do_ know better, but my safety-sense was down just long enough for the robber to get close enough to pull the gun, and the rest as they say, isn't history, just another statistic that got personal.

QUESTION: HOW DO WE GET THE SURVEILLANCE VIDEOS FROM OUR BUILDING AND THE ONE NEXTDOOR?

Peace, love, and safety y'all-

-G.

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