Only semi-useful stuff in BOLD for folks feeling
overwhelmed by their Inbox.
Reporting back, folks. I checked out all the 9 basement
computers, and found that someone had blown Linux Mint on two of
them, without bothering to preserve the original Windows installs.
For whatever reason, one of the installs didn't take and the
machine would not boot to a useful operating system. So I cloned
the #1 computer onto those machines, so they have Windows 10 and
Debian Linux stable on them. I gave them all new host names and
Windows 10 didn't trigger any activation issues, like I'd feared
it would. I also looked over the rest of the boxen & found
that one of the machines would not boot, and futzing with the
cards and RAM didn't seem to help, so it is unplugged in the
corner.
I sent an email to Almaz explaining what I had done, but didn't
get a reply, so I left it alone until I bumped in to her a few
weeks ago, and explained that 3 of the machines now dual booted,
into Windows by default, and showed her how to choose Linux with
the up-arrow key during boot up. Without my prompting Almaz asked
whether I could make the rest of the boxes dual boot, and I told
her I would be happy to do so, and finished last week. I found
that 2 of the machines had failing hard drives, so I swapped the
drive from the non-booting corner Windows box and brought a 500 GB
SATA drive from home, and cloned the first machine onto it. So
there are now 8 functioning Lenovo computers in the basement
that dual-boot Windows 10 and Debian Linux stable.
I decided the corner spot might as well have a working computer, so I brought in a funky-looking Athlon II X3 440 triple core box with 4GB of DDR2 memory that had belonged to Ed Rippy, a sudoroom member who died of cancer in late 2016. The box also has Debian stable copied on it, and I set up a not-great 1080p monitor along with the original Dell 1280x1024 monitor (oriented vertically), so anyone who wants can use a dual-monitor rig down there. I also brought in some 2.1 speakers. I've been using the box so I don't tie up a Liberated Lens machine (I built them a i7 Hackintosh with 32GB of memory that triple boots into O$X, Windohs & Linux). Mr. Rippy's box is pretty noisy, but it has some grunt, Friday I was impressed with how fast it remastered some Pedie Perez witness videos into a DVD that would play on a home player.
Pointless Aside: Ed's main machine was a 6-core Athlon with a big SSD and 8 GB of RAM. It was faster than anything I had at the time, but when he died his housemate, a comrade from the Oscar Grant Committee, threw it out, along with a couple of printers and a bunch of other stuff because he thought it was all junk. Who uses those big, old computers anymore? Instead he brought me a refurbed $90 netbook (without its power adapter or mouse) that I'd given to Mr. Rippy when he was in the hospice, because he thought that was what I meant when I said I wanted to come by Walnut Creek and pick up Ed's computer stuff. I restrained myself from frisbeeing the fucking thing into the bushes, and instead ordered a replacement adapter and gave the boxlet away to Danilo so he could play around with Linux. Anywho, I'd snagged the triple core while Ed was still alive, so it didn't end up in the landfill.
While I'm on the subject of pointless puttering, I have some
decent spare machines, and don't seem to be about to send another
shipment to Cuba with tRump in the Right House, I wonder if
folks would like me to put a computer or 2 in the 2nd floor
library, above the ballroom? Or anywhere else, for that
matter?
You can fool around with the boxes in the basement to see the
version of Linux I have installed. Like I said before, if you just
leave them on for about a minute they will boot to an unprivileged
user account, 'omni', password 'omnivore', or you can use the
password SuDoRoOm to select the sudoroom account, which has sudo
privileges.
Techy Babble for them's that like it:
There is no ethernet in that basement hallway, and the Windows
10 boxes have a funky proprietary USB wifi dongle. I compiled
a working driver, but I noticed that when you upgrade the
kernel it doesn't add the driver unless you have the
linux-headers package installed, and I'm not sure I installed
it in all of the boxes, but I will eventually, but in the
meantime, if you boot a machine that doesn't make a working
wifi connection you can choose another box or just reboot that
machine to the previous kernel by using the keyboard to select
Advanced Options for Debian in the boot-loader.
Still Living Ed
Julian, I don't know if the Mint box dual boots or if it obliterated the Windows partition, it is about the fourth one over from the left, I'll check the next time I'm in the Omni. In any case, I'm sure we could use clonezilla (http://clonezilla.org/) or partclone or some such to copy over the file system from one of the working Windows boxes, if desired. We might have to call Microsoft to re-activate the installation, but I don't imagine that would be too burdensome. I wouldn't mind doing that if these machines are actually being used to teach children how to use corporate software or something equally edifying.
I'm open to explaining dual booting to GCEA and asking for their permission before mucking with any of the other boxes but I'm not sure how to get contact them, I scrolled through the 180 days of email I keep on my riseup account that I use for political stuff, but didn't see anything too damning. I assume Almaz is a person and not the secretive Soviet military space station program from the sixties & seventies? A search through my email turns up this address, should I try to initiate contact?
ahana75@gmail.com
I agree with Jake that unattended computers should not be left running all the time, except maybe one or two of the public boxes on the second floor. (They may be noisy, but they are mostly running relatively low-powered AMD E-350 CPUs and probably use half the juice of these basement Core 2 Duos) At home I tend to shut down a box if I'm not going to be using it for more than a couple of hours or so unless it is doing something. Even then you can tell the computer to shut off after a given period of time.
https://www.computerhope.com/unix/ushutdow.htm
A long time ago there was a marginal case to be made for leaving a machine on all the time, but that is no longer true.
https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000390.htm
BTW, the last time I went in to the Omni office to look for a pad for Einstein I noticed that the 32" TV used as a monitor was on, it wasn't even in sleep mode. I believe it hooked to a machine running OSX which I am not unduly familiar with in a Biblical sense. Someone might mess with the computer's settings and tell it to blank the screen after 30 minutes or so.
e
On 11/08/2017 05:42 PM, Julian Park wrote:
Hi Ed,
As I understand it, these devices were a donation to GCEA. As GCEA does not have a dedicated space at Omni, and since the delegates assembly agreed having more devices in te library hall wouldn’t be an issue and could maybe be a plus, that was, as I recall, OK’d. Obviously passwords limit their common use. Nonetheless, I see no reason why, nor has anything happened to my knowledge to suggest otherwise, we shouldn’t continue to consider GCEA and Almaz (as the regular GCEA delegate, and all around Omni volunteer) as the stewards of those device. So before anything more gets done to them, I believe it should be cleared with Almaz and GCEA.
My personal opinion is that a dual boot using that minor of a portion of the HDs is a good solution. I see no reason why GCEA would object once the proposal is communicated clearly (not everyone knows what a “dual boot” is); it makes sense that there be a way for Commoners to use the devices since they are in a Common area; it also makes sense that GCEA have the installation they want on there for the youth etc to study with. But again, I think this suggestion should first be cleared before acted on further. I can understand why you and “someone” went forward with the previous Linux installations previously without asking, given the locations of the devices and given hacking habits of Sudoers, nonetheless I think that when the fate of a given set of devices is unknown, and the devices themselves are not in, e.g., Sudo Room itself, now and in the future it would be best for people to ask and wait for confirmation before going ahead rather than going ahead and asking after the fact. Cleary, you’re currently asking. Relatedly, would it be possible to restore Windows to the first device down there with Linux on it, from which it sounds like it was removed?
Best,
Julian
BAPS
On November 8, 2017 at 4:03:00 PM, Ed Biow (biow@riseup.net <mailto:biow@riseup.net>) wrote:
A few months ago about a dozen Core 2 Duo Lenovo boxes with 4 GB of RAM
materialized in the basement hall way. They were all left running with
the monitors on, but they had Windohs on them and the lock screens
required a password which was nowhere in evidence, and rebooting also
required a PW to log in. Anywho, since they just seemed to be heating
the basement, and it was summertime anyway I shut them all off, and did
so a couple of weeks later when I noticed they were powered back on
again. Since then they have mostly been off, and some folks know the
password and have been using them periodically. Someone blew Linux Mint
on one of the boxen.
The one on the far left (facing the wall) was unplugged, I plugged it
back in but it was beeping whenever it booted, but just required that I
open the case and clamp down the memory sticks, All Praise Cyber Jesus.
Since I had revived box from the dead like Lazarus I felt like no one
would object if I made it dual boot Linux as well as Windows 10. The
machines are mostly empty and have 300-500 GB hard drives, so I hacked
off 60 GB and copied a Debian 9 installation off of a flash drive, fixed
the fstab, installed grub, and set the machine to boot Windoze by
default. The USB wifi sticks are the only way for these things to get
internet since there is no ethernet cable in that hallway, but I managed
to get one working with Debian and it seems stable.
So unless someone objects I propose to set the rest of the machines to
boot automatically into Windows (and not require a PW when the screen
blanks) and also, I'd whack off a small chunk of their hard drives so
all the boxes dual boot Windows and Debian stable (except possibly the
Mint box, it may have been installed to stomp on the whole drive). It
will give me something to do and keep me out of the sun. This will not
adversely effect the Windows installations, which will still be
available to do whatever folks do in that OS.
Attached is a picture of the machine I mucked with, folks can go down
there and play around with it. As those of you are wise in the ways of
dual booting know, you can select Linux by using the "up arrow" key on
the keyboard to scroll to the Debian 9 "grub" entry and hit the Enter
key. It will automatically boot to a non-privileged "omni" account (PW:
omnivore) and it will hang for a few seconds at the lightdm display
manager to give you a chance to change the Linux desktop to taste (I
configured it for mate, xfce, cinnamon & KDE, and could add other
options if desired). You can also switch users to a "sudoroom" user,
that has sudo privileges, the PW is the same as the username, except in
drop case.
In a world without Gates who needs Windows?
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