Hmm... 

Then there was a second incident, because I did get confirmation that Elliot 'walked out' a guy who jimmied open the door with a knife - I got that confirmation from the person who was walked out and yelled at me about it, so I'm pretty sure that happened.. 





On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 12:35 PM, niki <niki.shelley@gmail.com> wrote:
I never heard about this incident.

Can we create a place to report these kinds of things - maybe a separate list.

I think it's important that the community is alerted when stuff like this happens.

Did I miss something, maybe? Sorry!

N

On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Eske Silver <eske.silver@gmail.com> wrote:

Elliot was not involved in the incident where I interacted with the intoxicated person who had a knife in the door, and was verbally abusive.
I enjoy the telephone game, same as anyone, but it seems this is one story worthy of clarification.
The drunky, Pidgeon, Noah, one other sudoer, and I were there.

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On Jan 16, 2015 4:59 PM, "Ryan" <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:
Sudo's meetings are at the same time, the same place, every week. Wednesday, 7 pm, Sudo Room.

Matt just said that he's going to bring it up at the next meeting.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:55 PM, joseph liesner <blue393@lmi.net> wrote:
When I was corrected for calling Elliot my comrade I
thought well I don't know, yet, what happened with them
so sould I trust others (as I have been advised to in the past)
and no longer consider them a comrade.  It didn't feel right;
and I think that is why his banning feels so strange to me.
Then, finally, at post # 24 DK adds some important specifics.
So I am requesting that the Sudoroom meeting where Elliot' s
banning is discussed be announced on Discuss well in advance of
it's happening.
Tahnks 
joe
On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Eske Silver wrote:

Sent this a couple days go, but I forgot to hit 'reply all':

True, though, that we have parted ways with members, and guests, for less than [multiple physical incidents?] - comrade or not.
While case-by-case is my prefered language, I also always stand by a Zero Tolerance for abuse toward another loving being.

From what I've read, this seems the logical mean answer:
For the sake of Safer Spaces, let's ask that Elliot appreciate a request that they take leave, until we find a resolution...
For the sake of nuance and case-by-case, I'd bet we could find someone who's known Elliot for a handful of human time increments, who would be so kind as to reach out to Elliot. This person might then glean what's going on with Elliot, and how he feels we (all) should/can procede with these issues.
Then, for the sake of precident, if Elliot is willing and able, we can follow the guide and set on to conflict resolution...
The rest is (in theory) easy, I'd say.

Any edits?

~ Korl

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